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Bass Staining?

Looks like you'd first need to pick the color you want and stain with that. Depending on the wood you could use a water soluble dye (for alder for example) or a pigmented gelled stain (for a wood like ash with its grainy texture). The faded look comes from the color and the not shiny is a matter of clearcoating it with the appropriate coating, like nitro lacquer for example and not buffing to a high gloss but to a satin. A thin top coat would also help.
 
Looks like you'd first need to pick the color you want and stain with that. Depending on the wood you could use a water soluble dye (for alder for example) or a pigmented gelled stain (for a wood like ash with its grainy texture). The faded look comes from the color and the not shiny is a matter of clearcoating it with the appropriate coating, like nitro lacquer for example and not buffing to a high gloss but to a satin. A thin top coat would also help.

well im thinking pretty dark
like walnut
the wood is agathis if it helps
 
Yes, it's best to get a piece of the same wood for practice but it's pretty hard to find agathis, if that's what it is. A piece of mahogany might be close to the same txture but without seeing the wood on your bass up close it's pretty hard to tell.

First thing to do is read up on different types of stains and methods of application. It helps to get a book on the subject. The library is a good place to start.

You also have to decide what type of finish you're going to use over the stain. There are many choices from simple wipe on tung oil finishes, varnish and polyurethane that you can apply by brush or with a cloth and lacquer which needs to be sprayed on.

If that's agathis, you might get the look you want with first a water soluble dye stain to get the colour you want, then a number of coats of Minwax Tung Oil. If the last coat of tung oil is a bit too glossy for you when it's dry, dull it down with some 0000 steel wool.

That's about the easiest finish you could do at home without experience and spray equipment.

You'll of course need to prepare the wood for the stain by sanding it very smooth with various grits of sandpaper up to 220 or 320 grit. The preparation of the wood is key to getting a good finish. If there's any old finish on the wood it has to be completely removed.
 
Yes, it's best to get a piece of the same wood for practice but it's pretty hard to find agathis, if that's what it is. A piece of mahogany might be close to the same txture but without seeing the wood on your bass up close it's pretty hard to tell.

First thing to do is read up on different types of stains and methods of application. It helps to get a book on the subject. The library is a good place to start.

You also have to decide what type of finish you're going to use over the stain. There are many choices from simple wipe on tung oil finishes, varnish and polyurethane that you can apply by brush or with a cloth and lacquer which needs to be sprayed on.

If that's agathis, you might get the look you want with first a water soluble dye stain to get the colour you want, then a number of coats of Minwax Tung Oil. If the last coat of tung oil is a bit too glossy for you when it's dry, dull it down with some 0000 steel wool.

That's about the easiest finish you could do at home without experience and spray equipment.

You'll of course need to prepare the wood for the stain by sanding it very smooth with various grits of sandpaper up to 220 or 320 grit. The preparation of the wood is key to getting a good finish. If there's any old finish on the wood it has to be completely removed.


well
a little more info would help you
i have spare parts of wood
cause this is not a refinish
this is a from scratch build
so i could test it
and this project is at my school
so they have decent spray equipment if i need it
but after reading ill probably go with tung oil
 
well
a little more info would help you
i have spare parts of wood
cause this is not a refinish
this is a from scratch build
so i could test it
and this project is at my school
so they have decent spray equipment if i need it
but after reading ill probably go with tung oil

If I were new at it and working at home I'd probably use a gelled stain of the appropriate colour, like the stuff made by Old Masters. It's quite forgiving to work with, doesn't blotch, the colours don't fade with time and it dries in 12 hours or less depending on temperature. The tung oil finish is easy, compatible with the gelled stain and gives good results.

But seeing that it's a school project and you have spray equipment and presumably a good instructor, you could do a nice spray finish and buff it to a satin. Your instructor could help a lot with choice of stain and finish. Then you'd learn something very useful.
 
Those SG basses are finished in a "matted" finish... satin or semi-gloss, but they *do* have a hard finish on them...

Yes, I recently saw one in a store. I think a Minwax finish could be built up thick enough and rubbed down to appropriate satin to replicate the look. Maybe Wipe On Poly would be better. Not as hard as nitro or some other finishes but probably good enough to serve.

That's if amphlette7 want's do do it the easiest way. But he has an equipped shop at school so could do a good spray finish.
 
Yes, I recently saw one in a store. I think a Minwax finish could be built up thick enough and rubbed down to appropriate satin to replicate the look. Maybe Wipe On Poly would be better. Not as hard as nitro or some other finishes but probably good enough to serve.

That's if amphlette7 want's do do it the easiest way. But he has an equipped shop at school so could do a good spray finish.

Uhh sensible word a soccer mate
its amphlett7 not 2 E's

but your advice is good
i think i'll either do a minwax or poly
just depends on the process though
but if one of the screwed up can be undone but the other cant
ill go with the one that can be un done
 
It looks like they're letting a little wood grain texture show too. I've been working on a similar finish on my bass. I dyed it and then used Minwax Wipe-on Poly.

I used the gloss, so mine's shiny, but still textured to the grain. It's also available in satin though. Or, alternatively, you could probably just buff off the glossiness with some very fine steelwool.

Huge pictures:

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I didn't mess with the lighting enough for the photos. The first one has a flash, and brings out a little more yellow than is really there. The second one is getting a little too much external light, and looks more muted than reality.

Neither pic is great, but they should give you an idea. If you did the same thing with satin poly, you would probably end up with something similar to the pic you posted.

Rule #1, Do a better job of the sanding than I did. ;)
 
so im getting to this conclusion

1) Sand the body up to a high grit sand paper
2) clean the body of any dust
3) apply the suitable gel stain (as many times as needed to get the colour right)
4)apply a layer of Satin Minwax wipe-on poly
^^as many as needed

ok just check that

Well, I won't claim to be an expert, since this is the first bass I've done. ;)

I'd probably actually go with the gloss poly and scrub out the shine with some really fine steel wool.

Also, I used aniline dyes, and not a gel stain. I expect that would work fine too though.
 
so im getting to this conclusion

1) Sand the body up to a high grit sand paper
2) clean the body of any dust
3) apply the suitable gel stain (as many times as needed to get the colour right)
4)apply a layer of Satin Minwax wipe-on poly
^^as many as needed

ok just check that

Yes pretty well that way. Except, I'd use gloss for all the coats up to the last. Use satin for the last. I know it costs more that way, but the satin varnishes have a flattening agent added to them to decrease the gloss. When built up in multiple coats they can cloud the colour and decrease the amount of wood grain showing, sort of like a fogged up windshield on a car. One coat of satin at the end won't be too much of this. Or alternately as previously suggested, use gloss for all coats and after the last coat has dried thoroughly, flatten the whole surface with 0000 steel wool or a fine green scotch brite pad. You may want to sand very lightly between coats with 600 grit wet or dry paper, used dry, to level out any little nibs of dust or any other foreign material. Be very careful with this so you don't sand right through the finish and take off the stain. This can easily happen on rounded edges. Don't use coarse sandpaper; stick with 600 grit for any between coats levelling. You might not need to sand between each coat. I seldom do if I do careful work applying it evenly and don't allow dust to get to it before it dries. I don't know how many coats you'll need before it looks right to you. Depends on the wood. If you work in a warm enough room the Minwax dries fast enough to sand and apply another coat in less than 4 hours. If the sandpaper gums up, it's not yet dry enough. Use fresh sandpaper each time. Wipe off all dust and sandpaper grit before applying the next coat.

Don't work right out of the can of Minwax Polyurethane. You can get dirt into it which can ruin everything. Pour a very small amount into a small container. I use cleaned out tuna cans and pour about 1/2" of the wipe on poly into it. This is usually plenty for one coat. Close up the can of Minwax as soon as you pour it so you don't let it start setting up in the can. Those child proof caps can also be a bit of a problem getting off by hand as you have to press down and turn at the same time and they sometimes won't turn and just ratchet away without opening. I use some vise grip pliers to hold the cap while I turn if this happens.

I use the blue shop towels available in rolls at Home Depot, etc. to apply the wipe on. They have a smooth texture and don't leave gunk behind. Some of the textured paper towels used in the kitchen leave a rough surface. The shop towels I use are made by Kimberly Clark. Alternately, you can use clean pieces of old white T-shirt cotton. This is fine if you have a supply. Or I often buy a box of cotton rags from Home Depot. They are all soft, white cotton and work well. Wash them in water first, no soap, to get rid of any manufaturer's sizing, then put them in the clothes drier to dry them and get rid of lint. Don't use dryer sheets or softeners such as Downy. You want clean, uncontaminated application cloths.

Practice on some scrap first.

Post some pictures of the result or as you go along.

Read the instructions on the can.

Work in a warm enough room and let it dry in a warm enough room. Above 70 degrees F is best. Make a cardboard or some other material cover to keep dust off while it dries.

Buy a book on wood finishing. Bob Flexnor or Jeff Jewitt have good ones, available from Taunton Press, publishers of Fine Woodworking magazine.

Have fun with it. :)