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Bass Whammy Petition!

I think this has been mentioned but it makes sense to me that Digitech could stand to do quite well if they just released another whammy pedal that had some of the missing features of the bass whammy. In other words, add the missing intervals from the old bass whammy and maybe improve the low-end tracking and call it the Whammy V rather than the Bass Whammy II. Then they could sell it to bass players and guitar players. Unfortunately, I don't think Digitech cares because the Whammy IV sells just fine for them.
 
Completely and totally false. Boutique builders make far less profit (in terms of total money received versus total cost of doing business) than any mass manufacturer.

However, they still try to make their profit by putting care into individual pieces rather than rattling out junk. As they are often one band bands with another job, this suits them just fine, and rewards them enough for them to continue with production.



How do you know that? Do you imagine even half the signatures in this thread actually have the money to jump on such a product release, and intend to follow through? Even if you do imagine that, there's no way to know it in advance.

There are a lot of bass players in the world. Considering these can sell for several times the original price on eBay with 4/5 bidders prepared to pay over $600 dollars for each one that gets sold. Make the price closer to that of the current whammy, and you suddenly have the entire bass playing sector of the Tool fanbase queuing outside. Ok, an exageration, but a lot of people here would by them, and Talk bass is still a tiny minority of the bass players who are interested in gear and such.


"Over time"? A "small and steady supply"? These are not concepts used by large scale manufacturers. You're talking about a big cost outlay at the beginning, on the hope that they would eventually make up that loss over the long term, and that is counter to how large manufacturers work. What you're suggesting is valid for a small boutique builder, but there are only a couple of small builders capable of designing and implementing that degree of DSP processing and investment in a treadle chassis (not a trivial cost). It is also potentially valid for EHX, as has been mentioned here a few times, but it's up to them whether they want to risk infringing on Digitech's intellectual property.

I mean small and steady by the standards of a large manufacturer. My key point was that half the expense has been covered by them already having a whammy in production, which they can use the chassis of. In the grand scheme of things, setting one of the machines up to produce the circuit boards like the old bass whammy (which they already have a tested design for) isn't too much.

Their starting up cost would be comparatively small, and in a world when they have the intellectual rights to the only mass production whammies on the market (I know of), they don't have to keep changing the design.

And moreover, Digitech is a successful company, and their success has not been declining. Success requires careful planning and analysis. They are professionals at making this kind of decision. You are not.

True, and I'm sure they have a reason for not producing them. It's just them giving absolutely no clues as to why this is when I've emailed them gets a little frustrating. They barely seem to give it any more recognition than "oh yes, we did used to produce one". :crying:
 
I think this has been mentioned but it makes sense to me that Digitech could stand to do quite well if they just released another whammy pedal that had some of the missing features of the bass whammy. In other words, add the missing intervals from the old bass whammy and maybe improve the low-end tracking and call it the Whammy V rather than the Bass Whammy II. Then they could sell it to bass players and guitar players. Unfortunately, I don't think Digitech cares because the Whammy IV sells just fine for them.

i think this would be the most realistic way of it happening


I agree with the petition, but doesn't the current Whammy do just fine on bass?

it does, but it doesn't. the tracking gets kinda iffy on the E-string, that and most people who are after the bass whammy want the ^5th/^oct setting.
 
So Digitech make pedals for fun? All pedal manufacturers are in it to make money. How they approach it is different, but in they end, they want your money in their pocket. Some try to make them as cheaply as possible and to shift large numbers of small profit margin pedals. Boutique builders try to appeal the upper end of the market, and get a much larger profit per pedal for their expertise and care over each unit.

If Digitech reintroduced the pedal, hundreds of bassists would get them on the day of release. Over time, if they kept a small and steady supply of the pedals going out the stores, they would continue to make money on what would now be a Whammy chassis with a modified circuit.

With all due respect,
if you read my earlier post(in this thread) on the Digitech bass whammy you would have a better understanding of what is going on.

In case you don't feel like going over the entire thread.

I am in constant touch with Digitech and there will be no new Digitech bass whammy coming out.
 
With all due respect,
if you read my earlier post(in this thread) on the Digitech bass whammy you would have a better understanding of what is going on.

In case you don't feel like going over the entire thread.

I am in constant touch with Digitech and there will be no new Digitech bass whammy coming out.

Fair enough. I have just tried to contact them and get the most ambiguous emails possible. I have even asked specifically if it wasn't being reissued because it wasn't viable from a business standpoint. They just said no current plans. Repeatedly.
 
How do you know that? Do you imagine even half the signatures in this thread actually have the money to jump on such a product release, and intend to follow through? Even if you do imagine that, there's no way to know it in advance.

That's assuming that nobody outside of the select group of people signing this petition would buy the pedal. Fat chance.
 
Fair enough. I have just tried to contact them and get the most ambiguous emails possible. I have even asked specifically if it wasn't being reissued because it wasn't viable from a business standpoint. They just said no current plans. Repeatedly.

I tried too. Just got the generic "we'll forward your note to the appropriate department" blowoff. Oh well, better to try and fail than to just fail to try. I would definitely purchase a reissue, but I think that picking up one on ebay would be much easier. Digitech has no interest in bass. Fortunately there are other companies out there that do. Also, their Hardwire pedals (at least the Chorus and Overdrive) sound good with bass.
 
I think this has been mentioned but it makes sense to me that Digitech could stand to do quite well if they just released another whammy pedal that had some of the missing features of the bass whammy. In other words, add the missing intervals from the old bass whammy and maybe improve the low-end tracking and call it the Whammy V rather than the Bass Whammy II. Then they could sell it to bass players and guitar players. Unfortunately, I don't think Digitech cares because the Whammy IV sells just fine for them.
This was exactly what I was thinking.
 
There is alot of posts on here. Has anyone mentioned that the discontinued Digitech BP8 has the EXACT whammy program as the blue version did? Including the all of the octave/up options? These can be had for around $100 on ebay. Not to mention it works damn good as a compressor and SVT emmulation. Here is what they look like
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They are a bit of a pain to set-up. (you have to set sweep parameters for every effect.) But once its set its great.
 
Yeah, I mentioned it a while back. What I was told (paraphrasing, here) is that the whammy performance on the BP8 is nowhere near what the original bass whammy or subsequent Whammy pedals could do. But yeah, without having to take out a second mortgage, people like you and I would never know for lack of opportunities to try the bass whammy ourselves.

But, I do share some enthusiasm for the BP8, due to the variety of great sounds the pedal can schuck out.