Honestly beatboxing.....making noises with your mouth is now considered an art and people pay to listen to it. It requires no musicianship and is not fair to all those people who spend painstaking years to get good at an instrument and then try to join bands or get their band noticed, when someone spends a few days in their room making noises with their mouth, and is considered a musician. This is wrong, terribly wrong, anyone who gets signed to a record company or is at a high place in popularity because to their so called 'talent' to beatbox, is an insult to us all, and is pretty much spitting in everyones face that actually tries to learn an instrument, as if theyve found an easy way to be a musician.....What a strange world we live in..... What does everyone else think?
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Beatboxing
- Thread starter ahhelpme
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"pretty much spitting in everyones face"
Quite often literally...
But I disagree with you - beatboxing is just another form of expression. Sure, anyone with a mouth can do it, but then again, anyone can fret a note and pluck a string, but that doesn't mean that everyone's going to be a fantastic bass player after a few days in their room.
I can't say I've noticed it getting out of hand, though. Mind you, last time was on TalkBeatBoxer, NickTheBeatBoxer was vacuuming up his pet hamster, so I'm a bit out of the loop.
Quite often literally...
But I disagree with you - beatboxing is just another form of expression. Sure, anyone with a mouth can do it, but then again, anyone can fret a note and pluck a string, but that doesn't mean that everyone's going to be a fantastic bass player after a few days in their room.
I can't say I've noticed it getting out of hand, though. Mind you, last time was on TalkBeatBoxer, NickTheBeatBoxer was vacuuming up his pet hamster, so I'm a bit out of the loop.
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Seriuously, what set you against people who beatbox? Also I can think of two semi-famous stars who can beatbox and the grand scheme of things they aren't that famous. Razael and Biz Markie.
Seriuously, what set you against people who beatbox? Also I can think of two semi-famous stars who can beatbox and the grand scheme of things they aren't that famous. Razael and Biz Markie.
ahhelpme said:
Surely this is something that all singers do?
Same goes for screamcore type stuff, noise, rap, yodelling, Diamanda Galas style wailing etc. There are plenty of people dismissing each of those on the basis that it's not "proper" singing and requires no talent (apart from the yodelling maybe
).They're just means of expression and entertainment and mean something to somebody, no matter how easy/difficult they're perceived to be to create.
Yes !suicas said:
Sometimes some of these people have a point, IMO rapping does require talent, except if you're Puff Daddy ...suicas said:Same goes for screamcore type stuff, noise, rap, yodelling, Diamanda Galas style wailing etc. There are plenty of people dismissing each of those on the basis that it's not "proper" singing and requires no talent (apart from the yodelling maybe
I agree completely.suicas said:
Programming a drumcomputer is easier than beatboxing and sampling a beat is even easier ... so what ?
Should we all stop playing bass cause it's easier then violin ?
One man's art is another's grafitti. I'll bet you don't like "hamboning" or armpit music either! :scowl:
ahhelpme said:
Requires very much talent, IMO. Beatboxers spend a long time developing their skill and practicing. Find some beatboxing forums and you'll see what I mean.
Doesn't match up to the link posted earlier, but if you look in the tutorial section, you'll find that it's not as freestyle as you think:
http://www.beatbox.tv
I really liked that harmonica beatbox on the Beatbox.tv site.
And that Kontraband video... get it from Ebaum's world. It's got another couple mintues on it, where he starts singing and beatboxing at the same time. It's pretty nuts.
And that Kontraband video... get it from Ebaum's world. It's got another couple mintues on it, where he starts singing and beatboxing at the same time. It's pretty nuts.
I think it's just strange of you to say that, Ahhelpme.
A professional beatboxer would have to know different beats and time signatures and swing-feels and whatnot, and learn whole song arrangements and mic control (maybe even use different mics and pedals and tone settings for different songs and parts, like we would set up for our different pickups and stuff), learn to properly groove with a group of musicians, stage presence, advanced techniques, develop contacts in the business, network with other musicians, develop a whole show of songs... just like you or I. One big difference is that we picked an instrument that everybody needs; it's easy to get work - I'll bet there's a higher percentage of beat-boxers who must truly do it for the love of it then for bassists. I'd think that it would be much easier for a bassist to not like playing his instrument or to have some kind of bad attitude about it, yet still make money every weekend, then for a beat boxer who wasn't dedicated, so it'd probably be best for you to stick with bass.
I don't get where you're coming from at all! It seems like very shallow thinking at first glance - kind of hateful, really, Man.
Joe
A professional beatboxer would have to know different beats and time signatures and swing-feels and whatnot, and learn whole song arrangements and mic control (maybe even use different mics and pedals and tone settings for different songs and parts, like we would set up for our different pickups and stuff), learn to properly groove with a group of musicians, stage presence, advanced techniques, develop contacts in the business, network with other musicians, develop a whole show of songs... just like you or I. One big difference is that we picked an instrument that everybody needs; it's easy to get work - I'll bet there's a higher percentage of beat-boxers who must truly do it for the love of it then for bassists. I'd think that it would be much easier for a bassist to not like playing his instrument or to have some kind of bad attitude about it, yet still make money every weekend, then for a beat boxer who wasn't dedicated, so it'd probably be best for you to stick with bass.
I don't get where you're coming from at all! It seems like very shallow thinking at first glance - kind of hateful, really, Man.
Joe
Beatboxing's hard as **** to do! Ever try spitting a beat while humming a melody? Or perfectly recreating the sound of a vinyl scratch?
I don't see how this is an insult to people who play instruments, if anything it's clear that maybe some instrumentalists are just rehashing the same old same old, sprucing it up with new effects and maybe a laser show, and then sending it to print.
Besides, where would we be if we immediately poo-pooed anything that wasn't orthodox? In a pretty boring state, that's where. Like, Nebraska or something.
I don't see how this is an insult to people who play instruments, if anything it's clear that maybe some instrumentalists are just rehashing the same old same old, sprucing it up with new effects and maybe a laser show, and then sending it to print.
Besides, where would we be if we immediately poo-pooed anything that wasn't orthodox? In a pretty boring state, that's where. Like, Nebraska or something.
i personally have a deep respect for people who can really beatbox well. i know there are hundreds upon hundreds of guys out there that try to impress people with some lackluster attempt at beatboxing [i should know, i was one of them once 
]. but real beatboxing, IMHO, is just as much an art as singing. i agree with the comment suicas made about rap and screamcore etc, it speaks to some and not to others.
-jimbo
]. but real beatboxing, IMHO, is just as much an art as singing. i agree with the comment suicas made about rap and screamcore etc, it speaks to some and not to others.amen!badgrandad said:
-jimbo
