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Beginner - pick or no pick?

Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?
Both. If you do rock cover work and want to replicate the original sounds of alot of older tunes, you will need a pick. It is good to be able to go back and forth as needed. Just figure out where to put the pick when not using it so you don't lose it (e.g. you put it on your amp and it gets blown away by the wind during an outdoor gig), make it hard to find (e.g. in your pocket with your change and keys) or can't see it (e.g. dark color pick falls on the floor or can't be seen against your amp's dark vinyl). Some players loosen the pick guard a bit to stick it in there. Some straps have pick holders as well. Mine has a couple in case I drop one.
 
Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?
 
Both. If you do rock cover work and want to replicate the original sounds of alot of older tunes, you will need a pick. It is good to be able to go back and forth as needed. Just figure out where to put the pick when not using it so you don't lose it (e.g. you put it on your amp and it gets blown away by the wind during an outdoor gig), make it hard to find (e.g. in your pocket with your change and keys) or can't see it (e.g. dark color pick falls on the floor or can't be seen against your amp's dark vinyl). Some players loosen the pick guard a bit to stick it in there. Some straps have pick holders as well. Mine has a couple in case I drop one.

Learn both. Someday you may prefer one to the other, but’s it’s handy to know both. I play mostly fingerstyle, but frankly after playing a particularly intense tune that requires a lot of right hand work it’s nice to give your fingers a break and play a couple of tunes using the plectrum. Entwistle used both throughout his career, and he was one of the players that most fundamentally changed and evolved the instrument in its early days. The bass guitar only has about 60-70 years since the instrument replaced the upright in popular music, so it doesn’t yet have quite the centuries of entrenched techniques that most traditional classical instruments do. Experiment, have fun and learn as much as you can!
 
Not reading the whole thread, but echoing the need to know how to play with fingers and pick, especially if you play music made in the last 40 years and certainly punk.
Any staunch traditionalist that poo-poos pick use doesn't play modern, pick music anyway.
 
Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?

When I was first starting out, I used a pick because it was easier. My guitarist brother said "you're a bass player, you have to play fingerstyle!" So, I was exclusively fingerstyle for a long time.

My brother was wrong to imply that pickstyle was wrong. There are many top-shelf bassists who use a pick: Sir Paul, Carol Kaye, Bobby Vega, Steve Swallow, etc etc. However I'm grateful to him for getting me to learn the more difficult path from the get-go. I'm not saying pickstyle is easier overall, but it's definitely easier for a beginner with tender fingertips.

These days I will happily use a pick for rock/punk tunes that require a strong attack. I should actually practice my pick technique more often so I get even better at it... there are a couple rock songs where I would like to use a pick but I don't yet have sufficient pickstyle chops.




TL;DR: as many others have said, learn pickstyle and fingerstyle. If you're so inclined you can add slapstyle and tapstyle (haven't done this myself)... but I strongly encourage both pickstyle and fingerstyle.
 
Some songs never sound right played with fingers if they were played with a pick on the recording. I played Squealer by AC/DC with a band and could never figure what was off about it until I played it with a pick one day.
 
I play fingers for slow stuff and pick for fast stuff.
If you can get hold of some I recommend Wedgie rubber picks. Get the hard or medium if possible as they last a lot longer than the soft. You get the benefit of playing with pick but with no click and a tone akin to fingers.
 
Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?

As a teacher, I recommend learning both ways, but most people gravitate toward specializing in one way or another. Whatever style gets you playing and practicing more is the first thing to think about, and yes, the vast majority of punk and hardcore players use picks, mainly because the tone has a crisper attack, and it’s easier to play a lot of fast notes (yes there are plenty of exceptions to this, this is just the most typical case). If the players you like use picks, don’t hesitate to try to emulate what they do. Mimicry is a big part of developing as a player. If you can’t do it, you can practice more, or try another way, there’s no simple answer, and playing fast punk music isn’t inherently easy.

You might find one way is naturally easier for you, which is normal. If you’re just going to play punk and hardcore, so be it, but I prefer flexibility and authenticity to the song of the moment personally. There’s nothing saying you can’t use different techniques for different styles. When I was playing in an 80s cover band, blues bands, wedding bands, and jazz combos, I’d use different techniques to fit the style (and did it all on one bass for over a decade at one point). My natural inclination is fingers, but always have picks handy, and practice enough to have clean technique, even though it’s not the technique that “speaks” to me. Ideally, you use the technique that gets the best result for each tune. Some folks are more stubborn, or lack the ability to cross over techniques cleanly. That’s not a problem if you can make it work for you. There are many different ways to navigate a career, I’ve chosen “jack of all trades, master of none,” and I’m happy, your mileage may vary.

Some folks have physical or other limitations that lead them to one style or another. Overall I find it easier to sing if I’m playing with a pick, but if I practice enough, I can get most songs down with finger style. Both styles have unique challenges as far as playing pure, clean notes, I don’t find one way inherently easier than the other, as long as you spend a lot of time on making sure your notes come through clear and strong. Interestingly, I have one young student who has diagnosed coordination issues, so I figured bass with a pick would be a good direction to go, since there are less parts in motion. The kid practiced a lot and made slow progress but enjoyed it, so I was fine with our progress. One day he just tried playing with his fingers on a whim, and what do you know... he made more progress in one week than we had in months prior. He’s now a legitimately darn good bass player, and owes it all to his own experimentation and work ethic. This is not typical, but goes to show you just never know what’s going to click for each person.

So long story long, try both, and try to do what sounds best in the given setting. If the “wrong” technique actually gets you playing a certain style better than the “proper” technique, go for it. The ultimate judgement should be based on the audible result, not what “should” work or what others have done.
 
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Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?
I think you should learn to play both with pick and with index and middle fingers - one or the other is going to work better for certain songs. And... it is good to have more than one string to your bow, as the saying goes....
 
I initally felt more comfortable with a pick for full song performance. But I would learn my sections with my fingers. Now my playing is about 70/30 pick and finger. But whatever serves the song best is the final determination in choice of style.
 
Nothing wrong with learning to play with a pick. I would highly suggest learning both techniques. Only a fool will tell you it is a bad idea to have more tricks in your bag.

First reply says it all, and as you may have noticed, all the following replies pretty much say the same thing.
One modification I'd suggest considering...
I started with a pick, cuz when I started Carole Kaye was all over the place and the guy who first handed me the bass also handed me a pick. In the intervening years I've also learned to play with my fingers. A general rule of thumb for me-the more laid back the tunes, the more I use fingers. The more rowdy, the more I use a pick.
I've also learned to play with a pick and play fingerstyle with my remaining three fingers. Finally, I've found I can simulate slap and pop by lifting the string with the pick. Using this technique you can combine pick fingers and slapping. Probably best to learn all three separately, and results may vary. Have fun.
 
I started with fingers.....years later tried pick....can not do it. All musical related things vanish as soon as a pick is in my hand. I don’t know if it’s something with the hand muscles shaped like that holding a pick or what.....but I can simulate it with squeezing my pointer finger and thumb together. Holding an actual pick....tried many times. No can do. I should have done both at the same time. Learn both at the same time. It’s great to have as many things at your disposal to use. There is a unique sound you can only get with a pick.
 
Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?
Pick mate, pick. Think about that lovely J.J Burnell sound, from the Stranglers. Punk likes killer bass tones too. Then you can learn fingers if you want and be a master of both like Flea. But good pick is as challenging as good finger playing, it is mot “below” fingers. No way.
Punk out.
T Xx
 
Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?

Basically the same sh*t almost everyone else said:
-Get proficient in both.
-Try other styles, too.
-I'm not sure if this was said, but once you feel comfortable, mess around with where you're fingering/picking - closer to the bridge or neck, over a specific pickup, etc...the sound (and the vibe) can change wildly.
-While I don't use slap/pop much, I do employ pick, fingers, tapping, and thumb-playing in my current noise/hardcore band Modern Love
-I've also bent the hell out of necks for de-tuning, shaken the crap out of a bass for who knows why, used a mic stand as a slide, punched, kicked, and generally abused many basses to desired effect.

Ultimately, it's your instrument and your playing, so you get to do what you want to do...but wouldn't it be nice to have a bunch of tools in your tool bag?
 
Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?
For 54 years and counting I have been a finger style player. I do a little thumb pop with index and middle finger pluck, put holding a pick in my hands to play bass always results in pain. When I was younger i never built in the muscles to hold onto and play with a pick.
But what I do is let the nail on my index and middle finger, right hand (right handed) grow a little bit longer and I can hold the index finger between my thumb and middle finger and use the nail as a built in pick. Nail length is important, as if it were too long it effects finger style. So,,,,,,,, I have a built in pick for when needed.
Also, sometimes I use the palm of my fight hand to muffle the strings and use the nail on index and middle finger to play with a particular sound. Muted pick thump I call it.
Best luck!!!! Bruce
 
Pick playing IMO, all depends on the genre and what the song requires.
Practice BOTH.
I play HC/Post-HC/Punk primarily right now; pick/plectrum all day and night, but...
when you-not if-you drop a pick, a player IMO should be able to transition to fingers immediately. Or, take only a millisecond to grab another pick. Depending on the era of punk/HC a song can totally die if the speed/attack on the bass line hiccups. While you're attack won't be identical when playing fingers versus a pick, the drop will only influence/modify your tone a bit, but the drive of the line won't be lost quite so much.
Practice BOTH.
Also, you will be able to play a multitude of others genres, and have better overall musicianship IMO.
If you get too much "clack" and you don't like it, when picking, cut the treble/high mids a tad.
Good luck.
+1 on this. I played for years with a pick. Then one day at a festival, a frisbee came out of the crowd, hit me right in the pick hand and sent my pick flying. I was about 20 feet from my mic stand where my pick sleeve was. HUGE gap in the song while I scrambled for a pic. Swore then and there I would learn to use my fingers. Never regretted the effort and now I can go either way.
 
Hi. I'm just getting started, learning to just play some simple riffs and play along to some easy grunge and punk tunes.
At the moment I'm playing without a pick, plucking with fingers but my main interest is punk and I've noticed a lot of my favourite punk bassists (especially hardco re bassists) seem to use a pick.
If I want to play punk, should I use a pick from the start or learn to play without and then change?
Ideally you should practice both, and use whichever technique suits the song best.