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Berg AE112 (& now AE-212) Cabs Now Shipping!

#61
Pete, I definitely have too many basses...and the list, at least for the moment, now includes two Fenders. I can relate, regardless of gig count. :D

San Carlos is smack dab in San Mateo county...on the "peninsula" or "west bay" section of the bay area. Countless cities have these festivals, and they make for fun gig opportunities. We were the 'opener' on the main stage - a really good Santana tribute band followed us.

By contrast, today's gig is pure work. Tuxedo on a hot day, set up in one area (outside) for a cocktail set, then relocate into the ballroom for the reception, and deal with the wedding planner who seems to be as psychotic and schizophrenic as they come. I feel bad for the band leader on this one, and I'm reminded how good it is to just be the bass player. :) Enough whining, though - I'm on the date with some great players and we'll be playing a bunch of great tunes...including some traditional Jewish horas that tax my weaksauce reading chops.
 
#62
Great playing, as always, Jerry! And that was indeed a mean sax riff, love it!

I almost wish I didn't know the bass was a Fender... I feel like the bass tone is missing something compared to your usual fare, although I'd easily believe it's psycho-psomatic... It certainly doesn't sound bad, it's just different from your usual tone (Lulls and Roscoes). Less punch, less aggression? Maybe that's what you're going for?

Of course, it could also be the cab & mic'ing. I LOVE the AE-212 for a live bass tone, it's one of my favorite Berg cabs. But I have not been able to mic it successfully yet, my recorded tone with that cab does not live up to the "in-room" tone (the upper mids and treble are where I've been struggling with that cab on tape). I prefer the HT112ER for mic'ing/recording, but I prefer the AE-212 for live tone. Whatcha gonna do when you want both?!?

Please do share the story of your Fender acquisitions. I'd love to hear how/why that came about!
 
#63
RocketMusic said:
Great playing, as always, Jerry! And that was indeed a mean sax riff, love it!

Please do share the story of your Fender acquisitions. I'd love to hear how/why that came about!
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+1 to both of these. The tone wasn't as punchy, but it definately sat in the mix well.

Great Job Fenderman Burdick ;)

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:D

God Bless, Ray
 
#67
ubone said:
Very nice Jerry... Gotta love them Jazz basses & Berg cabs... The secret to getting the best out of your Jazz bass is they like a good SS round wound and they like it a little rough...
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+1 And with the big low end of the AE212, and the typical voicing of a J Bass, a little boost around 150hz or so goes a LONG way to fattening up and punching up the low end.
 
#68
Yeah, I hope I'm not harshing Jerry's Fender buzz. I'm certainly not knocking the tone, it's a good tone. I just hear it sounding quite a bit different from his usual tone, and it makes me wonder two things:

1) Am I really that much of a snob at this point that being told the bass is a Fender makes me hear it differently? Man, I hope not!

2) Is it actually different in person, and was Jerry going for that? I know he's been on a mad run of jazz bass acquisitions, so he's obviously looking for something (and I hope he's found it!).
 
#73
Now I'm wondering about how this would work with a PJ5 and/or a Rob Allen. I didn't really care for the pair of AE112 cabs - lacked some punch and nasal for my taste. A single 210 doesn't have quite enough oomf for some of the gigs where I don't have FOH. The RA has so much low end though...

Lately have been playing through an Aggie setup at rehearsal that is pretty sweet (AG500SC and 1-15/4-10 I think - I know at least one of them is a 1-15) and that got me thinking...always a dangerous thing.
 
#74
The AE-212 is really awesome in the low end. It's big and punchy, but it's not flubby. This is the first "neo" cab I've heard that actually tames the "edginess" that I associate with neo drivers. You can do "big, fat & warm" with this cab, which is not something most "neo" cabs can accurately claim (IMHO).
 
#75
Todd, FWIW I really didn't like the AE112. I've posted this before, but that's one of the main reasons I was so surprised to love the 212 version.

More on the Fender stuff soon...not trying to add drama or anything, I just want to have some more sound clips available. In a nutshell, I came across deals that were too good to pass up...new American Deluxe Jazz five-string basses for ridiculously low prices. It was a very limited time offer, and after playing both I was inclined to jump on...both. Not sure I'll keep both of 'em, although one seems to be a keeper. As with all things Fender (IMO/IME), there's plenty of bad to go with the good. Greg, you're spot-on. That bass I used on Saturday definitely has it's quirks. After the first set I was thinking to myself, "This definitely isn't a Lull."

Foreshadowing a bit, with more clips and thoughts to come...

Saturday:
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Sunday:
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#77
VroomVroom said:
Todd, FWIW I really didn't like the AE112. I've posted this before, but that's one of the main reasons I was so surprised to love the 212 version.
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I have the 112 because I do a fair number of jazz/oldies rock gigs at nursing homes where a small rig is essential due to playing space and hauling (need one trip setup). And in that setting with a Rob Allen it sounds pretty good. But for funk or edgier jazz gigs it really didn't cut it (that was with a TC RH450 that I sold or with a MB LMTube that I currently use and like a lot). The AE210 is way closer to the tone I wanted, as I like to have mids so I can hear myself at reasonable volumes. I tried a pair of AE112s but it just didn't do it for me - I found that is was just too much low end and I couldn't really get any mid definition out of it.

I've thought about getting a 1-10 for the small jazz gigs and getting a pair of 210s for bigger gigs, but a 212 is certainly smaller/lighter than a pair of 210s - though there is an argument for modular...which was what I thought about the pair of 112s but I'm talking in circles now. :hmm:
 
#79
The AE-212 could be a one hand lift if you're a pretty stout fella. It's not for the faint of heart, but I could handle it no problem. And it is also VERY cartable, even on some of the flimsier carts.

Footprint-wise, it's no bigger than the AE-112s. It's just taller.
 

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