Bergantino stack?

[dtsamples]

A little, but i would choose 2x 112

I too have little to no experience with bergantino and am commenting in this thread

 

[mmbass21]

I have the HDN112, 210, and 212. I don't love the 112 or 210 independently but I am warming up to the 210 lately. The HDN112/210 combo is amazing together and I highly recommend it. The 112/212 is concert worthy and is my favorite but definitely too much for most venues.

 

[jthisdell]

Don't recommend Bergatino as a brand.

Like others, this is perhaps the first negative comment I have ever heard about Berg. Now everyone is entitled to their opinion and I totally respect that. But my experience has been great, great quality, fantastic service, well engineered products and above all, consistently great tone. I have had a NV115 and currently a CN112 and CN210. Now they are not cheap, no one will argue that fact but I first became aware of the brand and then found the Berg mega thread and it was like 400 pages of "this cab sounds great with XXX head" so I figured there must be something to it.

So back to the OP, I usually use my CN210 and have only used the CN112/210 pair a few times and it kicks and it s great to have the flexibility of the three options.

 

[nilorius]

My experience with Bergantino products (and Jim Bergantino) has been outstanding in every regard. Did you have a bad experience with a Berg product or is it just not your sound?

I'm not challenging what you said, but it strikes me as very unusual and would like to understand what got you to that position. Thanks in advance for whatever you are willing to share.

I only think it's my sound for that money, just my opinion.

 

[Al Kraft]

I only think it's my sound for that money, just my opinion.

Fair enough and thanks for sharing your reason. We each need to decide what sound/voicing works for us and where we get the most bang for the buck...and Berg gear is certainly not inexpensive. I was just curious if you had a bad experience with the gear or customer support as the Berg reputation is highly respected.

FWIW, I'm sure even Jim Bergantino would agree that his equipment might not meet the tone/voicing goals of every player.

 

[murphy]

FWIW, I'm sure even Jim Bergantino would agree that his equipment might not meet the tone/voicing goals of every player.

I disagree...I'm sure you can get everything you need from Jims' cabs....especially if you want to reproduce your basses sound

 

[It's Me]

I recently got myself a second CN210, so have the 2x210 stack. Very nice.

When I bought the first CN210 (years ago), a CN112 was in the running as well - this was to be my "small rig."

I was already using a CN212, so could have done the CN312, but I decided I didn't have much use for a 112 as a single cab, and liked the 210 as a stand alone better than the 112.

Really like the tone of the 210, and was needing a little more volume, so doubled up. I've got a great big-medium-small cab situation going, and I'm not mad about it.

I would say think about your volume and schlep needs, and maybe go from there. Would you use the 112 as a single? Will you ever want more cab?
If you want some tonal variety, and size/ volume are not a big concern, then maybe mix 'em.

I have a HDN-210 already. What comes out of that thing is unreal! (Have 2 HT-210s also, but tiered of schellping them around.) With the 210, I'm not sure if I'd use the 112 by itself, or just to stack with the 210. The voicing of the HDN sits perfectly in the mix.

 

[Koog]

A great way to get an idea about performance in the combinations you suggest is to drop Jim Bergantino a note via the "contact us" option on the Bergantino website.

I have done this on several occasions. Jim answers personally, and usually very soon after the inquiry.

There is no better way to get technical and performance information on Bergantino gear.

And, besides, Jim is just a great guy to get to know.

Hope this is helpful.

Koog

 

[It's Me]

I disagree...I'm sure you can get everything you need from Jims' cabs....especially if you want to reproduce your basses sound

Well, the HDN definately has a mid-range bump. Some may not like it. For me the voicing sits perfectly in the mix. Focused, bold and articulate. Just beautiful.

 

[Bartrinsic]

I have two Quilter 2x10w cabs (sealed) and one HDN-112. I like having the sealed 2x10 stacked on the ported 1x12 (tweeter off), but I've also used the 112 stacked on a 212. I do one of 3 things:
1) Simple: Both Quilter 2x10s with 1 amp for a tight 4 ohm parallel configuration
2) Fancy: 1 Quilter stacked on the HDN-112 (tweeter off), with two amps (extending one amp to the other using the line out, i.e., exactly as with a powered extension cab)
3) xOver psycho crazy. Same as 2) with a crossover on the signal (somewhere between 100hz and 200hz) for a true bi-amp. This is trickier and there are may ways for it not to work--more often, it's just not worth the effort for a portable rig. I find this worthwhile when I can set up in one place for a while, such as a practice or rehearsal space or a repeat venue. I do think 3) can sound better than 2) and 2) better than 1), but 1) is robust.

If I had all your money, I'd buy two 2x10s and one 1x12 so I could try all 3 above. Many might say I'm completely wasting your money, but I'd have lots of fun doing it!

 

[murphy]

Well, the HDN definately has a mid-range bump. Some may not like it. For me the voicing sits perfectly in the mix. Focused, bold and articulate. Just beautiful.

Ok....Perhaps I should have elaborated....Berg cabs have come in so many variations....several I have had...so I meant there is something out of all the models that should satisfy everyone....although many no longer in production

 

[It's Me]

Ok....Perhaps I should have elaborated....Berg cabs have come in so many variations....several I have had...so I meant there is something out of all the models that should satisfy everyone....although many no longer in production

. My HT-210s definately sound different than the HDN. Different, but also spectacular.

 

[Al Kraft]

Ok....Perhaps I should have elaborated....Berg cabs have come in so many variations....several I have had...so I meant there is something out of all the models that should satisfy everyone....although many no longer in production

I can agree with that. I'm not one of them, but some folks like cabs and/or heads with a ton of baked-in something or another. Jim's gear sounds good to me because I find his heads clear and articulate without being sterile and his cabs are either neutral or tastefully/minimally voiced to my ear. I like that cleaner palette approach that allows me to fine tune the tone of my bass without overwhelming it with a strong baked-in voicing.

 

[CaptainWally]

hello top guys,

go for 210+12.

 

[chadds]

Don't recommend Bergatino as a brand.

Check his spelling. He's obviously had a bad experience at some restaurant.

 

[SCT1422]

We all hear things differently and have had different experiences with all the gear available to we lovers of the low end... But as I love to always say, "I play Bergantino bitches" !!!!

 

[It's Me]

Thanks all. Anyone interested in selling a HDN-112?

 

[audiorep2]

IP112ER and HD112ER .

 

[Scott McArron]

I have 2xHDN210's and an HDN112. I've used them as a 2x210 stack and 210x112 stack. They're both really great, but there's something about 210x112 stack that works so great. I play a ton of genres through them and it's amazing with all of them: jazz, R&B, neosoul, indie rock, hard rock/metal (with pedals for overdrive and distortion), solo bass, etc. Using the B|Amp head as well as Noble tube preamp for extra flavor with both J and P basses.

 

[PaulCliff]

Just bought my gear this morning and went to rehearsal in the afternoon
Berg b amp and hdn 212.
Couldn't be more happy