See post #4
Mesa's 1x15 cainet is the punchiest 15 I've ever played through. The 2x15 is wall crumbling.
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Best cab/cabs for metal
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See post #4
Mesa's 1x15 cainet is the punchiest 15 I've ever played through. The 2x15 is wall crumbling.See post #4
The 215 as a stand alone then? I am playing bass and main vox, so my bass lines are fairly simple, at least for me. I the "shake" but the definition of the mids so I can be heard. I think I am better off with the foot vibrations. Thats a hard one to cut through. 215 sounds good, I'll check out some prices.
15s can actually put out a lot of mids, so don't worry about it being all low end and nothing else. If you find a decent 2x15 at a good price, that could work well for you as long as you can transport the thing.
You won't be disappointed. I actually prefer my Mesa 6x10 over the 2x15, it just has so much bass and a little punchier. The times I have played through the 2x15 I just had a smile on my face the whole time. If you want the best of both worlds, the 1200 is 4x10" and a 15" in the same cabinet. It is amazing.
I did not want to elimate mids/highs. I would get an 18 and prop the speaker side on the floor (not a bad idea...). I can check out craigslist, I am sure they will have something. The problem is transporting. I was checking stuff out, and I wonder if 2 210's would do the trick. Through a 15 under it later or the other way around. Hartke has 2 models of the 210,one sealed and one ported with a 5" mid. One of each to cut cost, easy transport, and good sound. The question is volume. It would be running 400 watts at 4 ohms, my poweramp is rated at 500 watts at 4 ohms. Thats perfect. Is that loud enough for my situation though?
I was looking at there site, my god
I know! I was crying too....such ugly wallpaper they used...so ugly
I know! I was crying too....such ugly wallpaper they used...so ugly
haha. Everything they have on that site is @#%@# amazing. I had a guitar tube combo from them for a while, like nothing else. I think I am kind of set on the hartke though. Get a 15, later when I can afford it a 210. That should get the job done. Thanks for your input everyone.
Oh, I see. So does this mean that you're interested only in recommendations for brands that you already knew about?
Never mind. My mistake...
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Oh, I see. So does this mean that you're interested only in recommendations for brands that you already knew about?
Never mind. My mistake...
MM
He just said he never heard of them...where did he say the other part?
I just asking in general- any brand. I have been using an swr working pro 12 combo and am new to the cab/head/rack system. I just have never heard of that brand before. There are so many diffent brands, I dont know whats good, over the top (mesa 
), or crappy (like behriger). Just trying to from people with experience. Sorry for the confusion.
), or crappy (like behriger). Just trying to from people with experience. Sorry for the confusion.
A couple of thoughts: I would not be inclined to run a single 15 when competing with two guitarists and a drummer, no matter what kind of wattage you have on tap. You mentioned that micing was no longer an option, so you obviously have PA support, which will do wonders for filling out the lower frequency spectrum for the audience. As to stage volume, I recommend running a 410 or something similar (Schroeders are designed to to really be heard in this regard). EQ your mids so that you can cut through with authority and let the PA do the rest. I can't second the Basson endorsement, as they aren't capable of doing anything that a similar cabinet couldn't do at about half the weight.
My three cents.
My three cents.
I'm chiming in a bit late here, but...
I have been playing hair metal, progressive metal and power metal for 20 years, I have gone through um-teen cab makes and configurations. THE best, budget end to high mid end cabs are made by DAVE at AVATAR. I used the 1000 watt 4-10 Kappa Pro on top of the 1-15 Kappa Pro. I paid under $600 for both - brand new. I found them to be better than my comparable SWR cabs, Peavey cabs, Sonic cabs, and I liked them as much as I liked my Mesa cabs...and perhaps more, cuz they cost half as much!.
A suggestion:
Eventually, you are not going to want to lift and carry big, heavy cabs anymore. Think ahead. The AVATAR NEO cabinets are great sounding, light and the biggest bang for your buck!
Furthermore, big speakers don't mean big sound. You need definition, and if one or both of your guitarists play 7 strings, they are stepping all over your frequency-based nuts, which means you need a defined tone, not just a "big" sound.
That said, I have done well in 2 guitar metal bands with a solid 1-15 and a 410, but I truly believe that a light weight 2-12 and a 410 will open every tonal door you need opened, and sets you up with 2 stand-alone cabs for smaller venues and portability. In fact, I am currently searching for a great deal on an Epifani UL2-212 to go below my UL2-410.
The Epi's are some of the best bass cabs around, but you said you were on a budget - check into the AVATARS, you'll be glad you did!
I have been playing hair metal, progressive metal and power metal for 20 years, I have gone through um-teen cab makes and configurations. THE best, budget end to high mid end cabs are made by DAVE at AVATAR. I used the 1000 watt 4-10 Kappa Pro on top of the 1-15 Kappa Pro. I paid under $600 for both - brand new. I found them to be better than my comparable SWR cabs, Peavey cabs, Sonic cabs, and I liked them as much as I liked my Mesa cabs...and perhaps more, cuz they cost half as much!.
A suggestion:
Eventually, you are not going to want to lift and carry big, heavy cabs anymore. Think ahead. The AVATAR NEO cabinets are great sounding, light and the biggest bang for your buck!
Furthermore, big speakers don't mean big sound. You need definition, and if one or both of your guitarists play 7 strings, they are stepping all over your frequency-based nuts, which means you need a defined tone, not just a "big" sound.
That said, I have done well in 2 guitar metal bands with a solid 1-15 and a 410, but I truly believe that a light weight 2-12 and a 410 will open every tonal door you need opened, and sets you up with 2 stand-alone cabs for smaller venues and portability. In fact, I am currently searching for a great deal on an Epifani UL2-212 to go below my UL2-410.
The Epi's are some of the best bass cabs around, but you said you were on a budget - check into the AVATARS, you'll be glad you did!
i had the same issue, playing metal, money was tight, and both my guitarists were running half stacks, i picked up my peavey 410 cab for a peavey max 450 head and found i still couldnt cut through / feel the bass. so i added a peavey black widow 18" ( haha and for those who think using a peavey is blasphemous to begin with relax i know, i know) and found that pushing out more bottom was a good way to start. Also i started out with a strict Fieldy (korn) outlook and dumped the mid. this was something of a mistake in terms of push and clarity but matched the music we were playing. so i kept my amp settings of dumped mid, and picked up an equalizer pedal, this was the best option at the time because when i really wanted to push through i just used the pedal to boost the mids that i had cut from the eq on the amp. or an overdrive pedal could help as well.
