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Best IEMs for bass?

makes sense, but I tried the Galaxy Audio AS900 (the vocalist of my band have one) and the bass sound was so "hollow" :hmm:
Hard to say though. That could have more to do with the mid range response than the attenuated bottom end. For example, the Beats Solo consumer phones tend to sound great with recorded music, but man they sound horrible to me for bass practice. Very nasal and hollow like you suggest. On paper, they have what looks like a great response range, but who knows what the curve is inside that range?

My suggestion is to spend some money on the right IEM from a reputable company. Talk to them about what you are wanting to do. I know my Westone rep gave me great advice, and actually recommended against the more expensive models based on things I was telling him about what I wanted as a bass player. He has worked with countless other bass players and knows what works.

It seems counter-intuitive, but going for a full range, deep bass response in an IEM for stage use is very likely to disappoint most players, at least if you are on a stage with a big PA and lots of subs. The PA will add so much rumble and bottom on stage that the last thing you want is more of that coming from your IEM's. Your situation might be different if you aren't playing in an environment like that, however, my Westone ES2's sound great everywhere I use them. They take EQ well and can fatten up if necessary, but they are never muddy such that I can't hear what I'm playing. Nothing is worse than not being able to hear the tonality or even what pitch you are playing when wearing IEM's. You can get lost very quickly in such cases.
 
My main objective is hear myself better and of course the rest of the band. Right now just for practice and small gigs in near future. I probably gonna keep carrying my bass rig (2x 1x12") to give the low end and some stage volume.

I saw good reviews about this Carvin EM900 here on TB. And if I can spent less than $400 and have a good system, and a just OK phone for now works.
 
I've been using the PSM200 + se215 buds and could not be happier. There is a little hiss with the wireless but it's a small price to pay for ear protection in smaller venues and the ability to hear myself on big outdoor stages.

I play a Sadowsky 5 string and there is ZERO low end distortion when the gain stages are set correctly...which is super easy to do.
 
I've been using Westone UM-2's and they work really well - especially for under $200. They are only dual drivers, but I think they do the job quite well.

+1.

Our church supplies the IEMs for the musicians. On the advice of the installing company, who could have recommended anything, the guitar and keys players get the Westone UM1 and the bass and drums the UM2.

They also recommended ditching the pre-installed foam tips and using the silicone tips. After a couple months of regular use, I have no problems with the UM2; they seal well and sound fine.
 
The drummer and I have been using the UM-2's for a while now. I use the silicone inserts and they are comfy and seal great. You can't even tell I'm wearing them unless you get close and see me straight on.
 
There is a huge amount of FUD (google it) about multiple drivers out there right ow. A lot of companies would have you believe that more drivers equals a better sound. It's pure BS, plain and simple. What matters is the quality of the drivers and it's sound, combined with what your ear believes to sound the best. Nothing more.

The Westone UM2's and ES2's (same drivers, but one is a universal and one is a custom mold) have a great response for STAGE use. They are not full range. Neither are 99% of the high end consumer phones on the market. So what. They sound great and work for bass players and drummers because of what THEY need to hear. I promise that I have worked with professional drummers and bass players who swear by these two Westone models all the time, even after supposedly "downgrading" from other models that have more drivers. Me and these other folks talk about gear and these two models in particular are constantly brought up. Others in this thread have said the same. There is a reason. They simply work. Don't buy into the multiple monitor BS as better for having a great sound.
 
Haven't read the whole thread but read a few posts. For what it's worth just throwing my .02 cents in the bucket... I have the Westone UM3X and love them. It was between these and Shure 535's. On stage, has GREAT sound presence and really holds up the bass. We use Aviom systems and I crank my bass and there is no cracking or buzzing in the earbuds. Great sound isolation. In my iPhone, the bass leaves a little to be desired. Just a little though. Overall great sound out of my iPhone, just sometimes wish there was a bit more bass. Again, on-stage they SHINE!
 
I have a new set of 1964 Ears Quad Drivers scheduled to arrive tomorrow just in time for this weekends gigs. Curious to see how they compare to the Westone UM3x universals with Comply foams that I have been using for the past 8 months.

I've been quite happy with the UM3x's but thought customs were worth a try. We'll see.

Also, the build time on the customs was 15 business days from the time they received my molds. Not bad at all, especially considering adding bass clef on the sides as art.
 
I have a new set of 1964 Ears Quad Drivers scheduled to arrive tomorrow just in time for this weekends gigs. Curious to see how they compare to the Westone UM3x universals with Comply foams that I have been using for the past 8 months.

I've been quite happy with the UM3x's but thought customs were worth a try. We'll see.

Also, the build time on the customs was 15 business days from the time they received my molds. Not bad at all, especially considering adding bass clef on the sides as art.

Waiting for a comparison with your Westone's.

Did you "do the molds yourself" or did you go to a audiologist?
 
Ok, they came in the mail Friday in time to use at both of my gigs this weekend. 1964 quads. Fit is perfect, did the impressions at home, not thru an audiologist. I previously had my ear filters done at an audiologist and saw how easily it was done, so bothering with another appointment for new impressions wasn't worth it to me.

The 1964's have a slightly different EQ curve than my Westone UM3X universals with Comply foams. Lacks the mid range bump of the UM3X that makes everything pop when used onstage as a monitor - the mid bump makes iPod listening sound like poop, but is golden on stage. The 1964's sound much better through an iPod, but have loads more low end .... actually too much native lows IMO for clear stage monitoring.

The second night, my soundman notched out a bit of 60 and 80 HZ which cleared things right up - the mix sounded blurry the first night with my mix set flat, too much low end hurt instrument separation, everything was a mush. With the low end notched a bit the 1964 was fine and still has the low end perception extending much deeper than the UM3X without damaging the rest of the mix. Nice tight, non-boomy low end.

High mids and highs are still a tiniest bit clearer with the UM3X, which surprised me. They are VERY close, however. It's more a testament to the UM3X than a criticism of the 1964's. You really can't go wrong with either of these.

The customs are a more comfortable fit and have a tad bit better sound isolation, so I am going to stick with them as my primary. But if anyone has the UM3X and are satisfied with the comfort and the low end, there really is no reason to upgrade. There is no "night and day" upgrade benefit between these two models. Both are equally as sensitive, both sound great, with just a tad different sonic "flavor". I prefer the low end of the 1964's over the UM3X IF the lows are cut a tad, but prefer the highs of the UM3X. Not a big difference, but perceptible. If you have UM3X's and want a custom fit, I would recommend just having them re-shelled.
 

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I also have Quad fitted 1964 Ears and have had great sonic luck, but what Eublet and Eric M are saying seems like it makes some a lot of sense too. In MY experience, there have been a TON of variables in the last 18 months I've used in ear monitors, (lack of a consistent set up can pose major obstacles but unless you have soundchecks and the same mic placement it can change things up almost every time and it goes without saying you really need someone super sharp running things, to deal with said variables).

That being said, a "mediocre" IEM mix to me is always superior to a "great" floor monitor mix: you don't blow your ears out and play better, hear WAY more articulation, lock much easier with a drummer on big stages and helps your vocals in a huge way. My best gear purchase by far in the last few years and the 1964 folks were great to work with.
 
The Westone UM2's and ES2's (same drivers, but one is a universal and one is a custom mold) have a great response for STAGE use. They sound great and work for bass players and drummers because of what THEY need to hear. I promise that I have worked with professional drummers and bass players who swear by these two Westone models all the time, even after supposedly "downgrading" from other models that have more drivers. Me and these other folks talk about gear and these two models in particular are constantly brought up. Others in this thread have said the same. There is a reason. They simply work. Don't buy into the multiple monitor BS as better for having a great sound.

Played again today at church and everything sounded great. My bass was full and growly, drums where right where I needed them, vocals clear and keys..well I keep them down in the mix :-)

Seriously, best investment I have made in a while.
 
My setup for the almost year has been Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10 earphones with Comply tips into a Rolls 351 unit. This setup works great. All the lows are there, but it's not boomy or muddy. Very flat sounding, which I prefer. The Comply tips are super comfortable and isolate very well.

Someone on here complained about the Rolls being noisy. If he's referring to distortion, you just have to make sure you're not clipping at the input. The Line Input is unbalanced, which can be noisy if you don't deal with it. I run a balanced cable from the mixer to the Rolls. The end that plugs into the Rolls is a Neutrik NP2C-T10AA. It's a mono 1/4" with a built-in hi-z to lo-z transformer. This way, the long length of the cable stays balanced and keeps it from picking up noise. My Rolls runs dead silent this way in the few places that were noisy when I used to use an unbalaced cable.
 
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The Rolls works great. Pretty versatile as well. A more me option, different level controls, etc. pretty good piece of gear for $50. I use that and a Radial JDI with a Boss TU-2 on a Nano board. Couldn't be smaller or more simple.
 
I've been using the Westone UM3X-RC IEMs with Shure triple flange tips for over 3 years now. Extremely happy with the sound. I have also used the Rolls box and it works in a pinch but I feel spoiled by the Aviom setup we use.
I'm glad to hear the review on the 1964 quads from someone using the Westones as I have been kicking the change around for almost a year now but haven't because I'm really used to the sound signature of the UM3Xs and didn't want to be disappointed. Sounds like it's a good thing I waited. I may have just the UM3Xs re-shelled in custom molds.
 
You need to be careful about the Hz range of these units. Especially if you're ever playing a 5-string. The B string is 30hz and most of the wireless IEM systems don't go below 35hz. A lot of the earbuds don't either. Sennhieser drops down to 25hz.

I still haven't taken the plunge on the wireless system. But when I do, I'm going with the Sennhieser.

Sennheiser was the brand I used for my Sadowsky 5. The best wireless at the time.