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Best interface for recording direct bass

Exactly! :thumbsup: The DI box is THE most important factor for good direct bass recordings. The Countryman is a good recommendation. The Countryman + the Radials I mentioned in my post above are industry standards and they're used daily even in high end recording studios that can afford any DI they want.

Excuse my ignorance. Is a DI box the same (practically speaking) as the balanced OUT of a bass amp head, say of the Markbass LMIII? And can one feed this output, via XLR cable, into a Focusrite (or any other USB interface) and then per USB cable into Ableton Live (or any DAW) on a computer? This is what I'm doing, as an amateur, but I'm not sure if it's the right thing and whether I could get better results using different gear.
 
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Excuse my ignorance. Is a DI box the same (practically speaking) as the balanced OUT of a bass amp head, say of the Markbass LMIII? And can one feed this output, via XLR cable, into a Focusrite (or any other USB interface) an then per USB cable into Ableton Live (or any DAW) on a computer? This is what I'm doing, as an amateur, but I'm not sure if it's the right thing and whether I could get better results using different gear.

The answer to that question would be yes, no, sort of and it depends...

A dedicated DI box converts an instrument level signal (and also the impedance) into a mic level signal which means you will need to feed it into a mic preamp to bring the level up to a line level signal. A dedicated DI box will usually provide a very clean signal (unless it's a DI box that intentionally colors the signal with tubes&transformers) and will usually not have any tone controls/eq. A dedicated DI box will often have a switch for polarity reverse and a pad.

The balanced out on an amp will sometimes provide a mic level signal but often it's a line level signal. The sound of the balanced out XLR on an amp will usually be colored by the preamp section of the amp, in some rare cases also by the output section of the amp and depending on the design possibly also be affected by the tone control/eq settings of the amp. The output volume on the XLR may be even be affected by the amp settings but every amp is different. There is no standard for balanced outputs on amps. How they work and what kind of signal they provide will depend on the amp. In my experience XLR outputs on amps are usually more noisy than a dedicated DI box but I'm sure there are amps with high quality, low noise XLR outputs too.

The balanced out XLR of an amp can obviously not be used without having the amp connected to a load, which usually means a cab and that means LOUD. A dedicated DI box can be used for SILENT direct recording. You can of course use a load box with an amp for silent recording but load boxes are usually more expensive than a DI box so it really depends what kind of setup you want/need.

So yeah, it's kinda the same but not really...

You can certainly connect the XLR output of your amp directly to your interface. You just need to know whether the XLR output is mic level or line level. If you get decent levels without excessive noise or clipping the inputs on your interface it sounds like you're doing it right. :thumbsup:
 
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The answer to that question would be yes, no, sort of and it depends...

In my experience XLR outputs on amps are usually more noisy than a dedicated DI box but I'm sure there are amps with high quality, low noise XLR outputs too.

From a function perspective YES, it's the same. But not all amp act as a good DI or even have the option of an XLR out...cause their primarily function is to amplify (no poopie sherlock).

Now lately the modern amp are getting very good quality XLR out cause...well it's one box less and also it's closer to the sound / color that one player like (the cons being that maybe a front of the house guy might not like to have something he's not used too).

Hence my comment : my GK MB200 had an okayish XLR out, a bit noisy, but the DI out of the GK Legacy is superb and very quiet, to a point I sold very high end DI I had because I was not seeing the value added
 
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The answer to that question would be yes, no, sort of and it depends...

A dedicated DI box converts an instrument level signal (and also the impedance) into a mic level signal which means you will need to feed it into a mic preamp to bring the level up to a line level signal. A dedicated DI box will usually provide a very clean signal (unless it's a DI box that intentionally colors the signal with tubes&transformers) and will usually not have any tone controls/eq. A dedicated DI box will often have a switch for polarity reverse and a pad.

The balanced out on an amp will sometimes provide a mic level signal but often it's a line level signal. The sound of the balanced out XLR on an amp will usually be colored by the preamp section of the amp, in some rare cases also by the output section of the amp and depending on the design possibly also be affected by the tone control/eq settings of the amp. The output volume on the XLR may be even be affected by the amp settings but every amp is different. There is no standard for balanced outputs on amps. How they work and what kind of signal they provide will depend on the amp. In my experience XLR outputs on amps are usually more noisy than a dedicated DI box but I'm sure there are amps with high quality, low noise XLR outputs too.

The balanced out XLR of an amp can obviously not be used without having the amp connected to a load, which usually means a cab and that means LOUD. A dedicated DI box can be used for SILENT direct recording. You can of course use a load box with an amp for silent recording but load boxes are usually more expensive than a DI box so it really depends what kind of setup you want/need.

So yeah, it's kinda the same but not really...

You can certainly connect the XLR output of your amp directly to your interface. You just need to know whether the XLR output is mic level or line level. If you get decent levels without excessive noise or clipping the inputs on your interface it sounds like you're doing it right. :thumbsup:

Thank you for your reply. Regarding the balanced out XLR of an amp, in my case the Markbass Little Mark III, the head features a line out volume knob and, of course, master volume knob for the cabs, so you can record dead silent, if you wish. There's also a pre/post EQ button for the balanced out XLR signal. As for the quality of the line out signal of the LMIII, it should be pretty decent but I can't compare so I don't really know.
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A couple of clarifications:
The balanced out on an amp will sometimes provide a mic level signal but often it's a line level signal.
Most of the time the XLR out on an amp provides a mic level signal. Providing a line level output from the XLR out on a bass amp is much less common.

The sound of the balanced out XLR on an amp will usually be colored by the preamp section of the amp
Most bass amps have a pre/post switch on their XLR out that couples the instrument input directly to the XLR and avoids any color from the amp.
 
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Another vote for the Apollo Twin.
I'm recording with MOTU Track16 for a long time. They work great, but preamp sound's a little bit cold.
Finally I got a Apollo twin last week.
It's much warmer and smooth when I connect bass direct in front panel (Hi-Z).
If you don't want to use any bass preamp (no matter what pedals or amp-head), and cable is not too long.
mic-pre on the interface is the first unit that I care about.

Yamaha TRB-6II direct in to Apollo
 
I used to have a Behringer UMC22 on my desk, then I upgraded to a Focusrite Solo (2nd gen) when I saw a cheap one on ebay. I've also used Soundcraft Notepad and Behringer XR18 mixers as interfaces a couple of times. Never noticed any difference between the 4, what goes in to the input is way more important!
 
I was using the Focusrite Solo for several years. Last year I upgraded to the Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen.
Personally, I prefer two inputs. When I'm working on a song, I use one input for the guitar and the other for the bass. And I don't mess with the gain staging between tracks.
I've been very happy with the volume and tone coming out of the Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen.
Good luck in your search.