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Best Way to Emulate a Guitar?
- Thread starter Snakeman1066
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i've read all the posts, and so far i guess i'm missing not what you want to do, but why you want to do it.
many three pieces have existed, and many have sounded very full.
listen to Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin, or Queen (okay, maybe not) for some good lessons on how to take up that space.
the other question becomes: are you just used to hearing a second guitar on these songs? if it is, maybe you just need to readjust the way you hear the tunes.
past that... not sure what to tell you. good luck though!
many three pieces have existed, and many have sounded very full.
listen to Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin, or Queen (okay, maybe not) for some good lessons on how to take up that space.
the other question becomes: are you just used to hearing a second guitar on these songs? if it is, maybe you just need to readjust the way you hear the tunes.
past that... not sure what to tell you. good luck though!
the lead singer also plays guitar....
during his solo's i need to cover the rhythm part....currently i'm running an OD into a BBM into an RPM and then into a 4x10 this is close but not quite.....looking to add something to this set-up to sound closer to a guitar during the solos....
during his solo's i need to cover the rhythm part....currently i'm running an OD into a BBM into an RPM and then into a 4x10 this is close but not quite.....looking to add something to this set-up to sound closer to a guitar during the solos....
Best way to emulate a guitarist,...play too loud,...solo too often, and rag on every other guitarist in the local area,......
.......other than that,......have you considered an ERB, like a Conklin GT-7? yes, I just happen to have one for sale in the classifieds here......but thats beside the point,....I have done a trio, keys bass and drums, and used the extended range for guitar type sounds while the keys guy covered the low end,.....and as stated before,....someone's gotta be holding the bottom down somewhere. Maybe some bass pedals, ala the old moog taurus, while you attempt the geetar sounding parts,.....feel like being busy and pressured throughout your entire gig???
.......other than that,......have you considered an ERB, like a Conklin GT-7? yes, I just happen to have one for sale in the classifieds here......but thats beside the point,....I have done a trio, keys bass and drums, and used the extended range for guitar type sounds while the keys guy covered the low end,.....and as stated before,....someone's gotta be holding the bottom down somewhere. Maybe some bass pedals, ala the old moog taurus, while you attempt the geetar sounding parts,.....feel like being busy and pressured throughout your entire gig???
Octave up (MicroPOG or other) between OD and distortion should work great. or, as Darkstrike said, Metal Zoen.
+1000
While you're dicking around trying to sound like a guitar, who's holding down the low end groove ?
without getting into pedals, i put on just bridge pup, lop off the bass and crank the trebs. toss in a little overdrive of your choice and your set.
I think you are thinking the right thoughts.
I would also look at a OD/fuzz/distortion that sucks for bass, seriously. OR turn the tone UP on pedals you have and see what happens. Then blend it back in with your normal bass sound.
my 15" is being run clean guys so no loss of bottom end...
I have also considered running my highs into a 2 x 12" combo via a hot plate....
I have also considered running my highs into a 2 x 12" combo via a hot plate....
I'm voting for the Metal Zone. I've got one, actually, that I'm not using...
or you could try a Metal Muff. I can get a sweet almost guitar sound out of it.
or you could try a Metal Muff. I can get a sweet almost guitar sound out of it.
More info on what your doing. So what music are you playing and what is your current band lineup? If doing covers, do you try to retain the sound of the band that did the song originally or do you rearrange them to fit your band?
I use various dirt pedals and a POG. Also like using various phasers with dirt too (I love phasers). I can get some killer guitarish sounds, BUT can't imagine replacing the guitar parts in a cover band with a bass if the group was trying to retain the original sound of the song. If the audience is expecting a song to sound a certain way (like the original), you have a tough challange.
On the other hand, if your in an original band that also plays highly modified covers, then the sky is the limit. Just rearrange the songs for the proper instrumentation.
Akai Unibass or the big POG/HOG. You can play your bass lines as you would and have a digital guitar chord playing in unison while you do it. These 3 pedals can do it better than the rest because they put out more than just a single octave up. With the distortion you're already running, much of the digital squack will be covered up, and the rest of the band should cover the rest of it- End result-- you playing your bass lines with a digital 'guitar' playing chords in unison.
Yes but then you lose your dirty bass tone if you make your dirty side sound like a guitar
Now that is a good idea. Or get a Marshall head, you can get some sike sounds with a bass and a marshall JCM 800
Take a good distortion pedal w/ an EQ control on it an take all the lows out, then run that into a wah or an envelope filter. Getting an EQ pedal to go after the distortion would definitely help, to further tune out some low frequencies and clean up the high mids a bit. If you want to go real nuts you could throw down for a bass whammy or a regular whammy, and see where that takes you.
ODB3 (No lows) -> GEB-7(less lows+lomids, maybe some extra high mids) -> Qtron + (or possibly in the effects loop?)
That should do it.
ODB3 (No lows) -> GEB-7(less lows+lomids, maybe some extra high mids) -> Qtron + (or possibly in the effects loop?)
That should do it.
+1, this is pretty much your best option... or maybe a Bass Whammy if that can do octave up plus a 5th.
What about getting your guitarist to use a looper? If he's playing rhythm then suddenly stops playing chords to take a solo, your attempts to emulate that are going to sound lousy compared to the real thing. The looper might be tricky for him to get the hang of but it's do-able. And don't forget the biggest benefit - he has to put in all the money and effort while you stick to what you're good at!
No doubt! Twelves are even harder!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svPE59mkDQI
Anyway, sorry to derail, but an 8er would not be a bad choice to fill out the sound a bit on certain sections/songs. A well setup 8 string isn't any harder to play than a 4 banger, eats up lots of sonic space, and will sound more "natural" and "organic" than any pedal.
Not any harder to play, harder to "solo" is what I said, bends, harmonics, natural and pinched, hammer ons, two handed tapping, chords, popping, all harder.
Oh, and no matter how much I like Clatter, that distortion sound, IMHO, was terrible, though it sounds great when she uses her Rick.
And in this situation makes no sene, completly changing his sound, and having to learn new techniques. Much better off re doing his dirty channel to take up more guitarish frequencys.
And yes, 8's and 12's do sound far more organic than any pedal.
