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Billy Sheehan's Pickups

What's the advantage to having the Dimarzio One ["mudbucker"] right at the neck as opposed to a pup by the bridge in addition to the P pup. [I know about Billy's "woofer/tweeter" setup.]

Why wouldn't a guy that plays lots of notes want the definition of a bridge pup? He could still use his two output system, but the P pup would be the "woofer" in this case while the other pup could provide much needed clarity to fast passages.

Perhaps this is a silly question. Perhaps Billy doesn't want clarity and definition.

/end thread ;)
 
I think he was a Jack Bruce fan and had modified a old P bass and an older Yamaha BB series bass with a mudbucker in the neck position and a P pickup in the normal position.

no. His first bass, was a fender P. Then he saw Tim bogert, and though he had a big fat Tele neck and bought one of those (later he found out that it was not a tele neck.. but loved it)
He was a fan of The Yardbirds, with Samwell Smith on the bass with the super low end bass sound:)

Billy sais he didnt need a pickup in the bridge pos, cuz his P delivered that he needed.
 
Because he runs the bass in stereo, and he runs the P pickup though a distortion preamp, and the neck pickup deep and clean, so he wanted the Model One to fill in the low end and the P to do the overdrive treble end.

Some people don't like Jazz basses, so he used a P bass. Jazz basses just got very popular lately.

Then he saw Tim Bogert

Monster player... anyone who doesn't know who he is should pick up the Beck Bogert Appice CD. :D

And he's from NJ!
 
What's the advantage to having the Dimarzio One ["mudbucker"] right at the neck as opposed to a pup by the bridge in addition to the P pup. [I know about Billy's "woofer/tweeter" setup.]

Why wouldn't a guy that plays lots of notes want the definition of a bridge pup? He could still use his two output system, but the P pup would be the "woofer" in this case while the other pup could provide much needed clarity to fast passages.

Perhaps this is a silly question. Perhaps Billy doesn't want clarity and definition.

/end thread ;)

Errr. because that's the sound he likes?!!

The way he sets his amps eq an compression gives him plenty of articulation and clarity. He removes quite a lot of low end from the split P p/up and has a ton of compression that brings a trebly tone and every nuance and harmonic out of it. The woofer p/up is sent to another amp with the top end rolled off and less extreme compression to provide a huge meaty low end that doesn't encroach into the mids and high end.

Remember these are specially designed p/ups too that provide the tone Billy wants. And also remember, he doesn't go for zingy high end, he's more about mid range growl.

He could have gone for a bridge unit instead, which whilst would give good definition, it doesn't give the massive rounded low end that the neck p/up does. I am inclined to agree with him too. My 5 string warwick thumb has 2 J p/ups right up near the bridge, it has a hell of a tone, and really crisp and defined, but my Yamaha RBX4-A2 which has a more traditional Jazz bass layout with one p/up much nearer the neck has a bigger, rounder low end.

As others have mentioned, it is well documented that he was never happy with the tone of his P bass when he was doing flashy tricks. He would lose all the bottom end when playing harmonics etc. He saw another bassist that had an EB-O and was stunned at his massive chest thumping low end, but thought it lacked definition. So he thought he should combine the two and use 2 amps, so still retain the signature P bass sound for all the detail and yet still have big round lows.

I have seen him live recently, and only using one amp with both p/ups combined and he still had a clear defined tone and you could hear every nuance in his playing. Every tap, harmonic, pinched harmonic was clear, but still had a full low end.
 
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He could still use his two output system, but the P pup would be the "woofer" in this case while the other pup could provide much needed clarity to fast passages.

Actually the Dimarzio is the woofer. P pickups are not just fat and bassy. This seems to be a common misconception. Before people started using jazz basses a lot, just about everything was done on P basses.

But people think of Motown, and assume that's the only tone of a P bass.

Listen to players like John Wetton in King Crimson, Ray Shulman in Gentle Giant, or Steve Harris in Iron Maiden, and even songs with slapping like "Forget Me Nots" by Patrice Rushen. That's all P bass, and very bright.
 
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Actually the Dimarzio is the woofer. P pickups are not just fat and bassy. This seems to be a common misconception. Before people started using jazz basses a lot, just about everything was done on P basses.

But people think of Motown, and assume that's the only tone of a P bass.

Listen to players like John Wetton in King Crimson, Ray Shulman in Gentle Giant, or Steve Harris in Iron Maiden, and even songs with slapping like "Forget Me Nots" by Patrice Rushen. That's all P bass, and very bright.


Also David Hungate played a P bass on Boz Skaggs "Silk Degrees" and Dave Hope from Kansas played a P bass most of the time and it sounded almost like a Ric it was so bright. John Entwistles most famous lines were played on a P bass and he had a really bright tone.
 
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Remember these are specially designed p/ups too that provide the tone Billy wants. And also remember, he doesn't go for zingy high end, he's more about mid range growl.

I'm not into the high end thing either. My EQ looks like a mountain with a peak in the mid-range.

I just like jazz basses because I like the neck on them. Two of my favorite instruments have a jazz bass neck and a p-bass pup in the middle, j-bass pup in the bridge.
 
Also David Hungate played a P bass on Boz Skaggs "Silk Degrees" and Dave Hope from Kansas played a P bass most of the time and it sounded almost like a Ric it was so bright. John Entwistles most famous lines were played on a P bass and he had a really bright tone.

I was going to mention Hungate and song Lowdown, since that was thew song that introduced string popping to the vast majority of the music world. Then I figured since I'm 50, most younger guys wouldn't know that song. :hmm:

I forgot about Dave Hope... another good example!

And Entwistle's most famous line.. the solo from My Generation was played on flatwound nylon strings!

So much for preconceptions!
:D
 
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FWIW Mr. Sheehan now has FOUR DiMarzio pickups:

Billy Sheehan | DiMarzio

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