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Blown Speaker

squirtle

squirtle

Feb 11, 2010
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#1
I just blew my speaker in my Fender Sidekick Bass cabinet.
It is one 15 inch speaker. I haven't bought a speaker in 30 years. Any advice would be appreciated. Someone told me there are light weight speakers now with a new kind of magnet (Neodymium). Are these any good? Anyadvice would be appreciated.
Thanks
 
#2
Like this?



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That was my first amp. Parents still have it...still works.

Yeah, neo's are high performance and lightweight but how much you wanna spend on that combo? It doesn't have near enough power to take advantage of what neo's can do. The Eminence Delta15A be a more reasonable choice.
 
#6
The Eminence Kappalite 3015LF is a great speaker, but really needs a properly sized and tuned enclosure to realize its potential. With the cost of neodymium through the roof, it makes sense to buy an inexpensive (relatively) ceramic magnet speaker. The Delta 15A is indeed a good general-purpose speaker.
 
#10
I agree with Floyd. Throw a Delta or Beta 15a in it. Inexpensive, sounds good, handles a lot more power...the neos are great and would probably work (only the 3015, not the 3015lf), but that's a lot of money to spend when a Delta or Beta would be much cheaper and sound good as well.
 
#13
Somewhat smart design, angling it up towards the ear a bit like that. When you replace the speaker, line the inside with matress pad foam or a few layers of quilt batting. It'll clear up the sound and make it less "boxy".

I still have fond memories of that amp. Loud, sounded good, and is far and away the highest ratio of :$$ spent vs. $$,made playing music. $50 a night is pretty nice coin when you have no responsibilities and can't even (legally) drive.:D
 
#15
JimmyM said:
That's what Bill always said, but I've driven the dogcrap out of my B-15 cabs with Deltas and a micro running at 500w and they take it and hold together just fine.
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That's cool. Bill's guidelines almost always refer to clean bass (xmax) and not pushing stuff farther than that. Also, a bass guitar signal varies a lot more than a constant sinewave, so that buys you a little room too.
 
#16
Xlim is the point of actual physical damage. The leeway between xmax and xlim is what we call dirt, flavor, or cone breakup. From the "technically perfect" point of view, it means you should've brought more speakers so they don't have to work that hard.;)
 
#17
I was talking about clean bass, bro. Should have made that clear. Stayed very clean...no idea how much kind of wattage I was pushing at its worst, but it was pretty close to its limit.
 
#18
JimmyM said:
I was talking about clean bass, bro. Should have made that clear. Stayed very clean...no idea how much kind of wattage I was pushing at its worst, but it was pretty close to its limit.
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That's cool Jimmy. One thing I learned/took out of the whole TC debacle thread is what sort of thing a plucked bass string actually shows to an amplifier. There's a big transient spike at the attack of the note, lasting a few milliseconds ( millisecond = 1/1000th of a second ). I don't care how good somebody is, they can't play faster than that, I know I can't. The rest of the time, as the note rings out, even if it's a 1/16th, 1/32nd, or even some blindingly fast run, the power demands as the rest of the note ring are somewhere 1/2 to 1/4 of the power demand of the original split-second attack. That means for the vast majority of the time, most of us are actually using/needing 1/4-1/2 the power we think we are. That means strong amps into weaker speakers are OK 'cause we're not using all that power most of the time.

Boil it all down and the reason TC can lie to all of us with a straight face and most people would never know is the same reason you can crank your 500 watt amp into a pair of Delta's and the same reason my dumbass used to crank 600 watt carvin amps with their bass boosted into speakers that "on paper" should've givwn up the ghost.....yet they survived. We're aimply not using all that power very much. This also gives folks a lot of wiggle room in the advertising department.

Those TC people were stupid enough to put a bunch of charts and graphs out there to try to continue the lie and their charts and graphs showed me the lie instead.

Pretty stupid when a bunch of degreed engineers can be found out by a half-drunk Texan. Lucky they didn't catch us on a good day when our powder was dry.:p
 
#19
Thanks for the advice gents.
I actually stole the picture off the internet after searching for the Sidekick bass cab. I don't have a pic of mine, but it does not angle out in the front like this one. It goes straight down. Also, on the back of the cabinet it says 4 ohms.
 

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