Broughton Audio Super Thread

[NKBassman]

After buying a P15, I saw Broughton had a SV-Pre pedal. How does the SV-PRE sound vs the P15?

Yes I saw that they emulate different Ampeg amps, I was just thinking if the SV-pre can cop a tube sound, and it's in a smaller form factor, and cheaper too, maybe it was an overall better choice for gigging?
However, I'm assuming that the P15, being tube driven, sounds better. So far I really like the tone I'm getting from it. But, if the SV-pre sounded anywhere close to actual tube tone, it would make for a practical alternative for a gigging muscian.

Alternative? Nobody here is looking for practical alternatives. lol

There's no reason you can't (and shouldn't) have and use both. The SVPre running into the P15 is a great sound. I set the P15 as my base sound, and use the SVPre as a light overdrive and/or mid-boost for when a more rockin sound is appropriate.

 

[jacoby75]

Yes I saw that they emulate different Ampeg amps, I was just thinking if the SV-pre can cop a tube sound, and it's in a smaller form factor, and cheaper too, maybe it was an overall better choice for gigging?
However, I'm assuming that the P15, being tube driven, sounds better. So far I really like the tone I'm getting from it. But, if the SV-pre sounded anywhere close to actual tube tone, it would make for a practical alternative for a gigging muscian.

Well, you came to the wrong place if you're looking for PRACTICAL advice around here, lol. This thread is all about being fiscally irresponsible in the name of acquiring as much Broughton gear as possible. Or maybe that's just me.

No one can answer what is best for you. The SVPre is great. I have an SSDI and SVPre, among other things, but I have not used a P15 to compare it to either of them. The SVPre into the SSDI is massive. If you're using an actual amp live, throwing an SVPre in front of it would likely sound fantastic. It all depends on what you're willing to spend and how much you're willing to carry. There should be a difference tonally between the SVPre (SVT-based) and P15 (B15-based). The SVPre is certainly more portable than the lunchbox pre's. But there is a certain heft and beef that the lunchbox pre adds to your tone that you cannot get from a pedal (at least I can testify to this in the case of the SSDI). I think it's from the sheer amount of iron that he puts in them or something. I can line up my boost, compressor, Fliptop or SVPre into a headphone amp and sound really good. But when I add the SSDI to the chain, that's where the studio magic comes in, and I feel like I have that great, solid, hefty, beefy bass tone. Like, you play a note, and it feels more substantial than without it. It's more than just a character or tonestack thing. It's a feel thing. I don't really know how to explain it. I would have to believe the P15 is the same way.

 

[Charlie Tuna]

This thread is all about being fiscally irresponsible in the name of acquiring as much GME stock as possible.

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[SquareWaveSymph]

Imagine that - what used to drive me nuts about that sort of scenario is that the organizers ALWAYS take it out on the bands that follow the "idiots". Just once, it would be nice to hear a stage manager say - "No, you were told how this was going to work. Play or don't play." Or - "Sure, we can do that... but we're cutting your set in half because of the extra setup/tear down time we'll need... you selfish ****s." But no, the next band always gets it in the arse.

Similar thing happened to my band, last summer (when shows were possible, for a few short weeks, here in Germany). We played a small local 'festival' gig and one of the bands that played before us just kept on playing for approximately 30 minutes longer than they were supposed to. Then, half way through our set, we were told that we'd have to stop early, because they were running out of time (the festival had to be done by 10pm, or so).

 

[Sascha Erni]

My Metal board is more and more turning into a Broughton board. But I’m totally set now, completely, absolutely with this board, I will NOT replace the Diamond for a Monocomp, nonono, never ever, nope, noooope. Cross my heart and things.

 

[saltydude]

My Metal board is more and more turning into a Broughton board. But I’m totally set now, completely, absolutely with this board, I will NOT replace the Diamond for a Monocomp, nonono, never ever, nope, noooope. Cross my heart and things.View attachment 4151270

That’s funny. Looking at your board I was saying to myself if Sascha likes the Diamond, the Monocomp is something worth looking into. Then I read the post.

 

[Dp1363]

Well, you came to the wrong place if you're looking for PRACTICAL advice around here, lol. This thread is all about being fiscally irresponsible in the name of acquiring as much Broughton gear as possible. Or maybe that's just me.

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No one can answer what is best for you. The SVPre is great. I have an SSDI and SVPre, among other things, but I have not used a P15 to compare it to either of them. The SVPre into the SSDI is massive. If you're using an actual amp live, throwing an SVPre in front of it would likely sound fantastic. It all depends on what you're willing to spend and how much you're willing to carry. There should be a difference tonally between the SVPre (SVT-based) and P15 (B15-based). The SVPre is certainly more portable than the lunchbox pre's. But there is a certain heft and beef that the lunchbox pre adds to your tone that you cannot get from a pedal (at least I can testify to this in the case of the SSDI). I think it's from the sheer amount of iron that he puts in them or something. I can line up my boost, compressor, Fliptop or SVPre into a headphone amp and sound really good. But when I add the SSDI to the chain, that's where the studio magic comes in, and I feel like I have that great, solid, hefty, beefy bass tone. Like, you play a note, and it feels more substantial than without it. It's more than just a character or tonestack thing. It's a feel thing. I don't really know how to explain it. I would have to believe the P15 is the same way.

I hadn't thought about using both but it sounds like it could be the best of both worlds. I have been using DI directly into the board lately so I was looking to fatten up my tone through the PA. The combo of the P15 and the SVT-pre could be tone I'm looking for. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[labeledbass]

I'm wiling to bet quite a bit that you'll have a SVpre Tube DI lunchbox soon, SS is to SSDI, as Fliptop is to P15, SVpre is to XXXX. The holy trinity will then be complete. But seriously, there has been serious talk and components have been purchased to start a SVT DI

 

[jacoby75]

I hadn't thought about using both but it sounds like it could be the best of both worlds. I have been using DI directly into the board lately so I was looking to fatten up my tone through the PA. The combo of the P15 and the SVT-pre could be tone I'm looking for. Thanks for the recommendation.

No problem. Bear in mind I haven't taken the SSDI out of the house yet, but at least in my headphones I've never sounded better. And the one time I plugged my SVPre into my SSDI and then into my Carvin power amp and 4x10 cab, I was absolutely blow away. I couldn't turn the thing up past 2 for in-home jamming, but what an incredible tone. If I turned it up to gigging volume, it would have blown the windows out of my house. Blows anything else I've ever used out of the water. As "labeledbass" pointed out earlier, anything you plug into the SSDI sounds better. I'd imagine the P15 would be the same way. And the SVT character that oozes out of the SVPre is fantastic. It totally destroyed any other SVT-ish pedal I've used, including the Tech21 stuff. I don't know how Josh does it. It's like the stuff he makes just knows what to do with your signal better than anything else I've tried. It just makes everything better.

 

[mmbongo]

I will NOT replace the Diamond for a Monocomp, nonono, never ever, nope, noooope. Cross my heart and things.View attachment 4151270

I thought the same thing until I got a Monocomp

Problem is, they are different enough that I can see keeping both on my board. I like the Monocomp with my passive basses because it thickens up the top strings and adds a nice layer of very very light grit. I like the Diamond with my active basses because of that added mid pop that it gives. I do prefer the master volume of the Diamond, I wish the Monocomp had a master volume.

All that being said, if you replace your big Diamond with a Diamond Bass Comp Jr. it would be easier to power and you would have enough room to squeeze in another pedal!!

 

[jacoby75]

. . . you would have enough room to squeeze in another pedal!!

^ This guy gets it.

 

[NKBassman]

All that being said, if you replace your big Diamond with a Diamond Bass Comp Jr. it would be easier to power and you would have enough room to squeeze in another pedal!!

I'll add that the mini pedals with side jacks (like Diamond Bass Comp Jr) and using EBS flat patch cables take up almost exactly as much room as a typical Broughton pedal (ie Monocomp) with top jacks. So switching to a Monocomp could maybe give you enough room for another pedal as well.

 

[labeledbass]

My Metal board is more and more turning into a Broughton board. But I’m totally set now, completely, absolutely with this board, I will NOT replace the Diamond for a Monocomp, nonono, never ever, nope, noooope. Cross my heart and things.View attachment 4151270

I too thought the same thing. Open it up and defeat the EQ, you'll see how much of that tilt EQ on the Diamond has to do with the overall sound. The monocomp works the same way, tilt and all, just with an added parallel channel that basically fixes everything wrong with the Diamond. I loved my Diamond, constantly praised it, the inside of the original is amazingly put together with really good components, but after listening to a monocomp at 18volts, my mind was changed. If you get a chance just try one out, but I reiterate the high voltage thing if you have a high output bass, 18+

 

[mmbongo]

I'll add that the mini pedals with side jacks (like Diamond Bass Comp Jr) and using EBS flat patch cables take up almost exactly as much room as a typical Broughton pedal (ie Monocomp) with top jacks. So switching to a Monocomp could maybe give you enough room for another pedal as well.

Well actually....the Diamond Jr. and the Monocomp are exactly the same enclosure, both with top jacks. They woudl be interchangeable

 

[NKBassman]

Well actually....the Diamond Jr. and the Monocomp are exactly the same enclosure, both with top jacks. They woudl be interchangeable

Ohhh I see. I thought the BCJr was a size smaller yet. I stand corrected.

 

[esoxhntr]

My Metal board is more and more turning into a Broughton board.View attachment 4151270

Another neat and tidy board that makes me feel shame.

 

[esoxhntr]

I will NOT replace the Diamond for a Monocomp, nonono, never ever, nope, noooope. Cross my heart and things.View attachment 4151270

You will, you know...

 

[NKBassman]

You know, a Locust Star would probably be a good fit on a "metal board"...

 

[Sascha Erni]

I thought the same thing until I got a Monocomp

Problem is, they are different enough that I can see keeping both on my board. I like the Monocomp with my passive basses because it thickens up the top strings and adds a nice layer of very very light grit. I like the Diamond with my active basses because of that added mid pop that it gives. I do prefer the master volume of the Diamond, I wish the Monocomp had a master volume.

All that being said, if you replace your big Diamond with a Diamond Bass Comp Jr. it would be easier to power and you would have enough room to squeeze in another pedal!!

I play passive basses and on this board, use the Diamond as sort of a boost. It does this very well, and very quietly. On my Classic Rock board, I have a Spark Mini in first position to do the same job, because the compressor's in the preamp (Orange Bass Butler; also an optical one-knob compressor).

The Jr suggestion is great, though. I had it on my shopping list, but then figured I don’t really need the space – I run the board with a CS6 and quite like that each pedal has its own isolated power line. But I'm also looking into wireless receivers, and offerings from Shure or Sennheiser are quite a bit broader than what the board would allow for in its current state, even if I ditched the PolyTune.

You know, a Locust Star would probably be a good fit on a "metal board"...

I have my alarm clock set for this round, actually. But more for my other board than this one; I find the Spark Booster into SV-Pre delivers all the drive I might need for the songs we play in the Metal covers band. Not to mention you can set up the Joshwah to sound exceedingly aggressive if needed.

 

[NKBassman]

I play passive basses and on this board, use the Diamond as sort of a boost. It does this very well, and very quietly. On my Classic Rock board, I have a Spark Mini in first position to do the same job, because the compressor's in the preamp (Orange Bass Butler; also an optical one-knob compressor).

The Jr suggestion is great, though. I had it on my shopping list, but then figured I don’t really need the space – I run the board with a CS6 and quite like that each pedal has its own isolated power line. But I'm also looking into wireless receivers, and offerings from Shure or Sennheiser are quite a bit broader than what the board would allow for in its current state, even if I ditched the PolyTune.



I have my alarm clock set for this round, actually. But more for my other board than this one; I find the Spark Booster into SV-Pre delivers all the drive I might need for the songs we play in the Metal Covers band. Not to mention you can set up the Joshwah to sound exceedingly aggressive if needed.

I noticed the Gain was up really high on the JoshWah! lol

As I’m sure you’ve already read, The Locust Star does more subtle rock tones really well too.