I saw nothing on the website about it one way or the other - If they are going to advertise 3,600 watts ...
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Bugera Nuke ?? Who's Bought One Yet????
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I saw nothing on the website about it one way or the other - If they are going to advertise 3,600 watts ...
It is clearly stated as PEAK in the manual - page 12
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I guess they wait to sandbag you until you buy it and bring it home.
So the big ads about 3,600 watts is only hype. Then I ask, is this statement still true "this bad boy is the most powerful bass amp in the world!"
I notice that the manual says absolutely nothing about RMS power
The statement is also hype
RMS is usually 1/2 of peak power.
The Carvin B1500 puts out 1900 watts @ 2 ohm RMS
The new B2000 that is being released puts out 2050 watts @ 2 ohms RMS AND only weighs 13 pounds
There may be others out there now that beat The Nuke, but these are 2 that I know of off the top of my head.
I had 3 of them, 2 blew up and one was damaged in shipping, the only saving grace was Behringer took them all back. When it did work, it was a great amp, nice tone, loud, but not overbearing. Advice, don't get it, buy something that has a better track record. Price point, yes, but the kinks have not been worked out. I went back to Ampeg.
Sometimes, but not always, Our iAMP 800 put out 2,500 peak (and 1,000 at 2 ohms)
Mike
remember in the US you only have 120 amps. At EA we take into account that about 1,800 watts is probably the most available for most household/gig electrical systems
You mean volts
sorry yes - volts - you only have 15 amps (or so)
(thinking amps ...writing amps, duh)
That is a great honest answer.
120v RMS at 15 Amps = 1800w (RMS)
RMS for watts isn't a qualified standard but it's often used.
You have to subtract heat loss. Class-d is like 10%, and there's power supply loss.
So the very best amp in the world is only going to get like 1600W
Forget "Headroom" ratings - they're worthless.
Now honest companies will sell a higher wattage amp than 1600W but they also say how many circuit Amps(A) you need to get that power out. 20A+ It's not your standard outlet and it's not your standard plug.
If FTC stepped into the MI industry we'd be seeing some much more honest numbers from some manufacturers.
I used to have a BASS 400+ YEARS AGO. I didnt like it at all. It really did nothing for me. I dunno if it was the cabinet i was using, or what, but I just didnt like it.
After using trace Elliot for 15 years, Im now going back to Boogie with the M9.
If you budget can handle a few more bucks then i would suggest the M3.
I would much rather have an M3 ($799) than any hunk of Behringer/Bugera/Booger snot crap whatever they want to call it.
I played some of the Behringer/Bugera stuff once..... Just Once...thats all it took to consign them to the dumpster of trash equipment at the local music store.
Save yourself some trouble, buy Reputable equipment, new or used it doesnt matter. A 25 year old Trace Elliot head will smoke thier top of the line head andwill last you another 25 years. whereas thiers you might not make it to the end of this year with a brand new one.
I actually went and bought one...I´m using it with an ashdown ABM 810 and the thing has tons of power and it actually sounds pretty good..I run my bass trough an MXR m80 bass di+ which gives some extra warmth to the sound and I also use some distortion in my sound...I play a Tbird with BEAD tuning so it´s important that the low end stays clear..
I dont like boomy low ends so I turned the bass section of the eq down and that´s it, got the sound I wanted.. Don´t even need the graphic eq or the compressor but I´m glad they´re there in case I change my mind some day..
The last amp I played with before this was an Ampeg svt classic with a 410hlf cab and I think this rig sounds different of course being a solid state amp but I actually prefer the sound of this rig to the ampeg rig..havn´t tested the ampeq with the ashdown cab tough..
the build quality is pretty decent except fot the graphic eq sliders feel cheap, but they work fine..The abm 810 can take 1200w rms (1800w peak) so I´m pretty shure I won´t break it since I cant turn the amp even half way up because the rig is so loud no one else would hear themselves..And tons of power means lots of headroom and sound stays clear even when playing really loud..
So my opinion on this amp is pretty positive but Im shure I´d have another opinion If mine would have been broken out of the box..
Anyway I think If U need a clear sounding solid state amp with lots of power (I think this one would run two 810 cabs if needed) This is a pretty good value for money..of course you should try one first because It might not work with your gear like it does with mine or the sound you like may be totally different from mine..It´s like with any other thing in the world people have different tastes..
I havent owned any behringer gear before but I think this amp was worth the money so far..
I dont like boomy low ends so I turned the bass section of the eq down and that´s it, got the sound I wanted.. Don´t even need the graphic eq or the compressor but I´m glad they´re there in case I change my mind some day..
The last amp I played with before this was an Ampeg svt classic with a 410hlf cab and I think this rig sounds different of course being a solid state amp but I actually prefer the sound of this rig to the ampeg rig..havn´t tested the ampeq with the ashdown cab tough..
the build quality is pretty decent except fot the graphic eq sliders feel cheap, but they work fine..The abm 810 can take 1200w rms (1800w peak) so I´m pretty shure I won´t break it since I cant turn the amp even half way up because the rig is so loud no one else would hear themselves..And tons of power means lots of headroom and sound stays clear even when playing really loud..
So my opinion on this amp is pretty positive but Im shure I´d have another opinion If mine would have been broken out of the box..
Anyway I think If U need a clear sounding solid state amp with lots of power (I think this one would run two 810 cabs if needed) This is a pretty good value for money..of course you should try one first because It might not work with your gear like it does with mine or the sound you like may be totally different from mine..It´s like with any other thing in the world people have different tastes..
I havent owned any behringer gear before but I think this amp was worth the money so far..
I just bought the Bugera BTX36000... it will be here Tuesday. I'll let ya know what I think about it. I bought it to replace a GK800RB that took a dump. The 300W side died. I'll plug it into 2 SWR cabs... the Goliath and Son of Bertha cabs. I've got an extra 400W Carvin woofer in a homemade cab to help the 1x15 SWR cab out. I should have close to 1500watts continuous of cabs to thump it through. Anyone with a brain knows that the 3600Watt rating is an inflated rating for the purpose of drawing attention to itself... So!
What's the big deal? All companies exaggerate their stuff in one way or another. At 50 pounds it can't be a pussy of an amp anyway... especially since it's not a tube amp. I'm guessing it has as much balls as a 1000watt Ampeg and the reviews I've read boast tone that hasn't been heard from any other amp... EVER!
Those that have tried it are amazed. Those that have never seen it and bash it... are well... ignorant. I'm going to have first hand knowledge about it in a few days, because $510 was worth taking a chance that the reviewers are legit.
Oh... BTW. My studio is full of Behringer gear and I've only had once piece die on me... a Bass V-amp that I threw around like a frisbee. It lasted almost 5 years... not bad for a cheap plastic piece of crap for $99. I replaced it with the Bass V-amp Pro.... $169. Sounds AOK when recorded.
Pro Alex Lifeson of Rush has a whole traveling trunk full of Behringer gear. Pretty smart if you ask me... If your gear takes a dump on the road you can replace it in any music store in the country for pennies compared to exotic special brands that might take weeks to replace for boocoo bucks.
I've been trying to figure out why there are so many people out here bashing gear they know nothing about. The first thing that comes to mind is some people don't want to admit that maybe they could have gotten a better amp for way less than what they paid for their own rig. Keep in mind... when you buy most of the major, established BRAND NAME gear, you are paying a couple of hundred bucks just for the name. Why not charge more for you gear than it's worth if enough people buy into the hype. That's why they pay pros to endorse their gear... The Hype.
If you have an Ampeg, or Aguilar, or GK, or whatever other proven brand... well far out. You no doubt have an adequate amp. Does that some how put you in a better class than other bassists? No... that's in your fingers.
What's the big deal? All companies exaggerate their stuff in one way or another. At 50 pounds it can't be a pussy of an amp anyway... especially since it's not a tube amp. I'm guessing it has as much balls as a 1000watt Ampeg and the reviews I've read boast tone that hasn't been heard from any other amp... EVER!
Those that have tried it are amazed. Those that have never seen it and bash it... are well... ignorant. I'm going to have first hand knowledge about it in a few days, because $510 was worth taking a chance that the reviewers are legit.
Oh... BTW. My studio is full of Behringer gear and I've only had once piece die on me... a Bass V-amp that I threw around like a frisbee. It lasted almost 5 years... not bad for a cheap plastic piece of crap for $99. I replaced it with the Bass V-amp Pro.... $169. Sounds AOK when recorded.
Pro Alex Lifeson of Rush has a whole traveling trunk full of Behringer gear. Pretty smart if you ask me... If your gear takes a dump on the road you can replace it in any music store in the country for pennies compared to exotic special brands that might take weeks to replace for boocoo bucks.
I've been trying to figure out why there are so many people out here bashing gear they know nothing about. The first thing that comes to mind is some people don't want to admit that maybe they could have gotten a better amp for way less than what they paid for their own rig. Keep in mind... when you buy most of the major, established BRAND NAME gear, you are paying a couple of hundred bucks just for the name. Why not charge more for you gear than it's worth if enough people buy into the hype. That's why they pay pros to endorse their gear... The Hype.
If you have an Ampeg, or Aguilar, or GK, or whatever other proven brand... well far out. You no doubt have an adequate amp. Does that some how put you in a better class than other bassists? No... that's in your fingers.
Well it came today... well I guess for everyone else it came yesterday. I work a late swing shift... more like a graveyard shift. Anyway I had about 10 minutes to mess with it before I had to go to work. I goofed around with it and read the manual a bit just to figure out the correct way to run it a few minutes ago when I got home. As I suspected the 3600 watts is pretty much an over statement. They suggest it run both the BA115 and the BA410. I looked up the specs of those cabs and they add up to 1600 watts.
I'm running SWR cabs with it for a total of 1150 watts. It will push em but they will handle it fine. I think if I put everything on 10 though... I would risk popping those puppies. So my best guess right now is that the Bugera BTX36000 is really a 1600watt head. I don't know anywhere else I could get 1600 watts of power for $510... which is what I paid for it from guitar center when they applied the 15% off for their 4th of July sale.
Something that did surprise me was the tone on the high notes. The only word I can think of that comes close to describing it is "Sweet." The high notes seemed to sing. I never heard that with the same bass and same strings with my GK800RB head through the same SWR cabs. The GK strength is it's punchyness... the Bugera seemed every bit as punchy to me if not a bit more. The compressor probably a little to do with that.
I'm gigging with it this Saturday and I can't wait to hear it live. I'm gonna use my wireless so I can walk around the room and see just how it carries a room. So far I have experience NO buyers remorse. When I bought it, I was suspect to the 3600watt rating. But I figured if it is half that it's way more than I need.
I've got lots of Behringer gear... and to date, I've never had a piece of junk with a Behringer name on it. That's why I took a chance with this head. If it holds up I'm sure it will become one of my favorites. It's easy to use and understand, even though it's loaded with extra's.
If you are looking for a dirty amp... don't get this one... it has pristine clarity. I don't know if I can get any grit out of it without an FX unit of some kind. I love a clean sound... why else would I choose SWR cabs... they are some of the cleanest cabs on the market. So far this head sounds big and bad through those cabs... in a nice clean sort of way... LOL.
I'll tell ya more in week or so.
Hook
I'm running SWR cabs with it for a total of 1150 watts. It will push em but they will handle it fine. I think if I put everything on 10 though... I would risk popping those puppies. So my best guess right now is that the Bugera BTX36000 is really a 1600watt head. I don't know anywhere else I could get 1600 watts of power for $510... which is what I paid for it from guitar center when they applied the 15% off for their 4th of July sale.
Something that did surprise me was the tone on the high notes. The only word I can think of that comes close to describing it is "Sweet." The high notes seemed to sing. I never heard that with the same bass and same strings with my GK800RB head through the same SWR cabs. The GK strength is it's punchyness... the Bugera seemed every bit as punchy to me if not a bit more. The compressor probably a little to do with that.
I'm gigging with it this Saturday and I can't wait to hear it live. I'm gonna use my wireless so I can walk around the room and see just how it carries a room. So far I have experience NO buyers remorse. When I bought it, I was suspect to the 3600watt rating. But I figured if it is half that it's way more than I need.
I've got lots of Behringer gear... and to date, I've never had a piece of junk with a Behringer name on it. That's why I took a chance with this head. If it holds up I'm sure it will become one of my favorites. It's easy to use and understand, even though it's loaded with extra's.
If you are looking for a dirty amp... don't get this one... it has pristine clarity. I don't know if I can get any grit out of it without an FX unit of some kind. I love a clean sound... why else would I choose SWR cabs... they are some of the cleanest cabs on the market. So far this head sounds big and bad through those cabs... in a nice clean sort of way... LOL.
I'll tell ya more in week or so.
Hook
Funny... I've got lot's of Behringer gear and none of it has taken a crap on me yet... (knock knock). What's with all the negativity here? I use Adobe Audition for my recording and everything That I plug into is Behringer... and everyone that comes into my studio is blown away at my end product. It's not always what you have... it's how you use it.
I'm suspicious of the person on here that has a friend that has 3 Behringer or Bugera heads and blown them all. That's way out there if you ask me... heck, it might even be an out and out lie... but I didn't say that. If it is true, I'd be looking at perhaps investigating what the person is doing to blow the gear up. Perhaps stacking cabs incorrectly and reducing the ohm's to a dangerous level. Or plugging them into the 220 outlet by mistake or something. Who knows, but the odds just don't add up.
You might want to find another friend, because that kind of bad luck might be contagious.
