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Building a Rack; daydreaming at work.

#21
bassgod0dmw said:
This makes no sense. You would not use an interface to do any mixing or sending a signal to a PA. You use software for mixing and a DI to send a signal to the PA.

:confused:

You'd still have to EQ all of it and you'd need a computer with software to run it. All it does is converts an analog signal into a digital signal. The one you pictured happens to be able to do that for 8 different sources at the same time, plus whatever inputs are on the back that I can't see. It's not a mixer...
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Guess I should sharpen up on my jargon. And yeah, that's exactly what I intend to do: combine a buncha signal to a stereo-in on my PC or laptop.

WretchedExcess said:
A note of caution about those racks that have big indentations on the sides, like that roto-rack in the picture -- those recesses for handles on the outside act to impinge on the airflow on the inside. Many people have said that those shaped-box rack units have caused their amps to overheat.
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Duly noted. I'll start considering airflow.

Bongolation said:
I thought rack rigs were over with. :confused:

Anyway, rack cases only come in two sizes: Too big and too small.

I bought a 12U full-depth Gator Pro (very much in the former category) on Amazon a couple of years ago on long sale expecting I'd be able to trade it off for an 8U or something. Didn't.

I'm thinking of using it for an outdoor storage shed.
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CONGRATS YOU'RE MY NEW SIG!

georgestrings said:
I've been gigging a racked setup for a few years now, and after several hundred gigs I've learned a couple of things:

A power conditioner is snake oil, a waste of money, space, and dead weight to carry...

My limit is 4U - and even that can be inconvenient in certain circumstances...

Most people that talk about gigging a 6-8U rack probably haven't done it very much - if at all...

A racked setup that is heavy enough to stay on wheels is only good with a truck or trailer, because they aren't fun to lift - it's also a pain in the neck to change settings on during a performance...

Here's what I use:

Everything I could possibly need is right there, in a somewhat manageable package...


- georgestrings
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I haven't played a gig outside of my own house since 2007. Hehe. You've got a clean setup though. I think I'll take your word of experience on that and see what I can prune. :bassist:

George, are you the one who's associated with bass/guitarstringsonline? If so, still rocking my Pressurewounds. If not, well nevermind.




To everybody: thanks for all of the input so far. I made this so that experience could put my daydreaming into check. :cool:
 
#23
Bongolation said:
I thought rack rigs were over with. :confused
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I think they've definitely become passe' for guitards, except for those in bigger touring bands. I wasn't aware that they had become passe' for bass apps. Maybe I want to rack my rig because I'm just behind the times.

In my case a 4u rack would be just big enough to fit the SVT-2 Pro and nothing else. You guys with the compact SS amps have got a definite advantage there.
 
#24
bassgod0dmw said:
If I were building something to play in my house and only my house, it would be a nicely spec'd computer with a good DAW, a good interface, a good DI, a good mic, and an Ampeg B15.

If you don't gig why do you want wireless?
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That's why wireless wasn't on my original agenda.

That's basically what I've been using over the last few years, with good satisfaction. By this time next year I'll be two hours from back home/all my playing buddies vs where I am now, at over a thousand miles. I was pretty stoked to think of a full rig that suits my recording needs that I can just roll into the back of my SUV, this seemed to do it.

This is all part of expanding my ambitions. I'm old now [26 in October] and will be able to afford this type of stuff.
 
#26
georgestrings said:
I've been gigging a racked setup for a few years now, and after several hundred gigs I've learned a couple of things:

A power conditioner is snake oil, a waste of money, space, and dead weight to carry...

My limit is 4U - and even that can be inconvenient in certain circumstances...

Most people that talk about gigging a 6-8U rack probably haven't done it very much - if at all...

A racked setup that is heavy enough to stay on wheels is only good with a truck or trailer, because they aren't fun to lift - it's also a pain in the neck to change settings on during a performance...

Everything I could possibly need is right there, in a somewhat manageable package...


- georgestrings
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I'm with gs here, in fact, I have never even found a wireless unit necessary, so I have a simple SL Waber rackmount powerstrip in it's place:
 
#27
> "I was pretty stoked to think of a full rig that suits my recording needs that I can just roll into the back of my SUV, this seemed to do it."

I'm thinking that if you're going to do a permanent installation at home, then there's no such thing as a rack that's "too big." I've probably got enough gear in piles here and there that I could file a couple of 6 foot racks. Boy, racking gear like that would really do a lot for making the music space more workable.

But rolling a rack out to the SUV -- that's a problem. How tall of a rack could you roll into your SUV without having to tip it over and slide it? My Suburban is huge as far as SUVs go, and I don't think it can handle rack that's very tall unless it gets tipped over on it's side.
 
#28
danielfnj96 said:
Wait did everyone just look over that the OP said he was auditioning to replace Flea?
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More of a usurpation, really.

Jeff Scott said:
I'm with gs here, in fact, I have never even found a wireless unit necessary, so I have a simple SL Waber rackmount powerstrip in it's place:
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Ah, forgot to get out of the music-specific industry. $45 for rackmount seems plenty reasonable.
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-RS...567511&sr=1-13&keywords=tripp+lite+rack+power
 
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#29
Feral Feline said:
Fill that last 1U space with the [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

My ultimate rack would be 6u and all...

FUNK LOGIC! One of each...
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OR... Get some burnt out rackmount gear from the local radio station and strip the guts, wire up some LEDs for the switches and ta dah, funky stuff!.

Seriously. A six space rack with built-in wheels & telescoping handle that has nothing inside but room for cables/mics/a micro bass amp head and a mini pedal board. Beats a milk crate for transporting gear and looks so much cooler on stage.

:cool:
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Came across this a while back -- love it!
 
#31
WretchedExcess said:
I think they've definitely become passe' for guitards, except for those in bigger touring bands. I wasn't aware that they had become passe' for bass apps. Maybe I want to rack my rig because I'm just behind the times.

In my case a 4u rack would be just big enough to fit the SVT-2 Pro and nothing else. You guys with the compact SS amps have got a definite advantage there.
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Yeah, I can totally understand that - if I were to go to an SVT-2, Mesa 400+, etc... - I'd definitely go to separates: a 4U for the amp, and either a 2U for my wireless, tuner, and surge strip - or I'd set up a small pedalboard for the tuner and wireless... That's assuming I'd continue to run without effects, as I do now...

I could totally get away with a big rack these days, since my current band uses a trailer for sound, lights, and backline - but you never know when that might change, and I don't want anything larger than I can manage by myself in my F150...


- georgestrings
 
#33
When you build a big rack, it's all about the cool lights. Therefore, a tuner that does strobe spin is the bomb.

Of course you could get a cool headstock tuner from bassstringsonline, or better yet a two pack of tuners,( hey, why not one for each bass?) for less and save a rack space.

I limit it to a 4U SKB, but the truth is the streamliner 600 is all it takes.

Dream the rack, build the rack, schlep the rack, sell the rack. It's all about the journey.
 
#37
BassmanPaul said:
That rack is going to get old really fast. Moving it at the end of the night will become a chore. I have found that anything larger than a 4U rack case is awkward to handle.

A tuner is usually used once a night or so. I have two Korg rack tuners neither are in a rack.
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Yeah, I added the weights to include the case with a bit of overhead: NEARLY 70 DAMNED POUNDS! :scowl:

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But look at this block diagram for the Tascam US-1800. I dig it.
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