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Cabinet Combo for Orange TB1000

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Ghnami

Dec 3, 2009
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I am looking at getting a 4x10 cab and a 15" speaker to replace my old one that I blew out with this amp (since I was using it as a standalone) and am wondering what wattage and ohmage I should be looking for in my cabs. I am looking at getting an eminence kappa pro 15a and potentially an Eden ex410sc4 cab. I'd like to keep the budget low, $500 would be nice and $700 would be pushing it. I know I'm not going to get godly gear but I'd like to be able to play without fear of blowing anything up.

I still have the whole orange 15" cab, so I'd just replace the speaker in that. I forget what the dimensions are, but it has vents on the side of the speaker and is wider than it is tall.

I play a hand built fretless 5 string bass, with a low B, so I'd like to be able to achieve a good sound at those low frequencies.

Also, one last question (regardless of the actual product itself) to run with 2 cabs with a 1000w class D amp, I could have them rated for 500w at 8ohms and set the amp to 4 ohms and be golden, correct?

Thanks for your help, its much appreciated.
 
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If you want more clarity, you're gonna want more speakers to push more air. For that reason, I'd advise against a 1x15 box even if stacked with a 4x10 and go for two 4x10's or at the very least a decent 6x10 if an 8x10 is out of the question. I firmly believe the 410 + 115 stack combination is built on a lot of dated misinformation. One cab will always be quieter or underpowered next to the other (usually the 115) so its just not a practical option in my opinion.

You also need to take into consideration how much power your combined cabs can handle. It sounds to me that your original blown cabs were not rated high enough to handle the 1000 watts of the TB1000. Whatever cabs you choose to stack, you have to make sure their combined wattage handling is within the output of the amp (just to be safe) and that the Ohms aren't mismatched (eg. never run a 4 Ohm and an 8 Ohm cab together as that will create a combined a load of 2.67 Ohms...something the vast majority of bass amps and amps in general are not capable of doing). This will almost definitely fry something.

To answer your last question briefly, if you have two 500 watt 8 Ohm cabs paired together through the one 1000 watt amp, yes you will have to flick the 4 Ohm switch on the amp (provided we're still talking about the TB1000 otherwise most SS amps will do it automatically) to safely run the rig as the combined load will be 4 Ohms. You should take note that the Terror Bass heads pump out the full 1000 watts at both 4 Ohms and 8 Ohms so you can safely (provided both combined 8 Ohm cabs are rated within 1000 watts) use two 8 Ohm cabs together but I would strongly advise AGAINST pairing two 4 Ohm cabs as that will create a 2 Ohm load which is an almost guaranteed way of blowing your speakers again or even the amp since the TB1000 doesn't appear to handle a 2 Ohm load.

Your budget seems a bit tight considering what you need but then again I don't know what the used market is like in the States. I'd definitely look at second hand cabs for quality on the cheap. I've heard a TB500 sound absolutely massive through two Ashdown ABM 410 cabs - so much so that I picked up an ABM 410 myself the following week. Failing that, Hartke cabs are generally good bang for your buck and you should find them really cheap used.
 
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A 410/115 is about as poor a pairing as it gets unless the 410 is 4-ohms, the 115 is 8-ohms, & your amp can run @ 2-ohms. Do two 8-ohm 410s or two 8-ohm 115s (or two of any other 8-ohm cab you like).
 
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Ghnami said:
. I'd like to keep the budget low, $500 would be nice and $700 would be pushing it. I know I'm not going to get godly gear but I'd like to be able to play without fear of blowing anything up.
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OP you could also be a little patient and stalk the classifieds here. A fEARful 15/6 will turn up eventually. At 8 Ohms it will still be getting the full power from your amp, and will surpass a 410 in volume. It should fit in your budget, and will be top notch.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys, the trouble is right now I just don't have the capital to buy 2x410s, but I do have enough to get a solid 4x10 and a replacement speaker for my old 1x15 cab. This will allow me to purchase another 410 at a later date to replace my 115 entirely, while still giving me working setup for gigs this year. After a little more research and your input, I have come up with this potential setup:
Replace old speaker with eminence Kappa Pro 15a 500w@8ohms-$170
Buy new (I have a bad taste in my mouth with used gear) Ampeg Pf-410HLF 800w@8ohms-$550

I like headroom, I like my B to sound good, and for just over $700 it is manageable. I'll be researching that Ashdown a bit more though, thanks @El Raro for mentioning that, it looks pretty sweet and would be $50 cheaper than the ampeg.

Anyone have any more input with this info?
 
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Look for a used Genz-Benz 410 Uber (4Ω model). Rated for 1000 RMS watts, 103dB sensitivity. Ported with a 4k crossed tweet. Should be able to find one around $700 plus something for shipping. I have one and with my TB1000, it kills!
 
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@Coolhandjjl I'm not a fan of used gear and I couldn't find it for less than $950, so unless you want to sell me yours (in which case I'd be happy to drive down to Appleton to pick it up) gonna have to pass on that suggestion for now, but it is good to know of it for the future when I may need a single cab system.
 

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