• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Calling all Zoom MS60B and MS70CDR users

Fabe, I'm not too sure. I'll try it out. I just decided I'm putting my 70cdr back on my main board next to the 60b. I can tell you that as a tuner, it's good enough to use. I'll try tuning to a low A and see his it handles. I'll get back to you.
 
Specific question in regards to the tuner....does it function well? I play in drop A and have a Polytune that handles no problem...if the CDR can do it then bye bye Polytune!



Due to real estate issues, I've transfered my Boss TU-2 to my acoustic guitar set-up and now have been using the 60B first in chain, as a tuner and tone-shaper, for about 2 months. I'm not sure it's as precise as the TU-2, but so far so good.
 
Specific question in regards to the tuner....does it function well? I play in drop A and have a Polytune that handles no problem...if the CDR can do it then bye bye Polytune!


So I tuned it to a low A on my E string and compared it to my polytune. IMO it does a good job and is worth it. Plus the fact that you get all the other great effects on it, its a win win IMO. I cannot say it tuned as fast as the poly, but it was close IMO and it did tune. Add the fact that I have a .100 on my P right now, yeah, it does of well to pretty dang good. Hope that helped.
 
So I tuned it to a low A on my E string and compared it to my polytune. IMO it does a good job and is worth it. Plus the fact that you get all the other great effects on it, its a win win IMO. I cannot say it tuned as fast as the poly, but it was close IMO and it did tune. Add the fact that I have a .100 on my P right now, yeah, it does of well to pretty dang good. Hope that helped.


Bye bye Polytune! Sounds perfect!
 
I had a Zoom MS60B and was not impressed with it at all. It just sounded cheap to me. A lot of the settings sucked out the low end and it didn't sound very good combined with the other pedals on my board. I sold it a few weeks ago and was happy to get rid of it.

I think you would be much better off buying a dedicated chorus and delay/reverb pedal. There should be plenty of good ones you can find used on TB or eBay that would be very affordable and sound much better than the Zoom.
 
The 70cdr does a better job at the things along the modulation lines it does IMO. I have both the 60 and 70 on board again and I plan on using the 60 for synths mainly and the 70 for the low fi patch. Probably some other crazy stuff too. I can't say they're the best effects out there by any stretch but for what you pay for and what I'll be using them for, I think they're killer. They're not for everyone, but I dig em.
 
I'm planning on using it for crazy out-there sounds not too worries about low-end retention....that's what EQ's are for! Also I have an Orbital Modulator, Holowon Tape Soup,EHX Cathedral, Roland Space Echo and custom MSLP delay/reverb so I'm not lacking just looking at adding a different flavor. Effects to me are rarely "bad" just I think I how I could use it for context,tonality,function within a song or for plain "let's make my bass sound like an angry phasing space whale on acid". Different strokes for different folks!
 
Fabe, you will be very happy with the 70 then. It really can do some crazy stuff. It's even got a bass graphic EQ onboard so you can tweak any patch to your hearts desire. It's a great crazy sounds box. The low fi delay is sweet! You can set it to where it's just a low Fi machine without the delay too. It's a fun little pedal. IMO all the effects are usable and the ones that are just crazy or gimmicky are fun and actually usable in the right settings. I'm glad I picked one up and I'll have it for some time to come. It's worth every penny and much much more. That's why I say it's a win win. The price cannot be beat for what you get.

Other than all the different delays, choruses and reverbs you get that EQ and a line selector on top of that. That's a huge plus for this pedal.
 
This was the main reason I bought a MS60B .

I just wanted a small solution for chorus/reverb moments.. drum machine , looper, etcc were features which I didn't wanted .

I guess that's why all three are on the market. People's needs are different. Sometimes I take my MS60b with me for small band practices where space is at a premium. But it's a PITA to use compared to the B3. The 70CDR less so, because I tend to use only 3-4 specific models, which I rack up on one patch chain and switch them in or out individually. It works for me, but may not be for everyone.
 
Just jumped aboard the MS-70CDR bandwagon.

I've been gassing for a shimmer reverb for ages, and this has a few different types built in. Plus on the lookout for a decent phaser.

Can anyone tell me if there are any reverb/delay models with lo-cut / hi-pass filters on the reverb sound to avoid muddiness when used with bass? This was one of my favourite features of my old EHX SMMH.
 
Just jumped aboard the MS-70CDR bandwagon.

I've been gassing for a shimmer reverb for ages, and this has a few different types built in. Plus on the lookout for a decent phaser.

Can anyone tell me if there are any reverb/delay models with lo-cut / hi-pass filters on the reverb sound to avoid muddiness when used with bass? This was one of my favourite features of my old EHX SMMH.


That's why I have a EHX Cathedral as it has an echo mode with tone control. And presets for every mode!
 
I had a Zoom MS60B and was not impressed with it at all. It just sounded cheap to me. A lot of the settings sucked out the low end and it didn't sound very good combined with the other pedals on my board. I sold it a few weeks ago and was happy to get rid of it.

I think you would be much better off buying a dedicated chorus and delay/reverb pedal. There should be plenty of good ones you can find used on TB or eBay that would be very affordable and sound much better than the Zoom.


I have not found it to suck low end at all. As far as cheap-sounding, I might not go all the way to cheap, but high-quality dedicated effects sound better than each modeled effect, I cannot deny that. I don't think it's good enough for recording. But for live use, it works fine. It's an appliance of convenience.

So if you are an effect-heavy player, I don't think it can replace your pedal board. If you have a gig where you need a few effects on a few songs, and floor space is at a premium and the logistics of the gig are tight, that's where the MS60-B shines in my opinion. Mine is on my cover-band nano board, and it really provides a lot of functionality on that board.

If you are a real audiophile, though, definitely try before you buy because I could see tone-obsessed players not digging the MS-60B sounds. To me they are yeoman-like, in that they work just fine, but are not often inspiring in the way my dedicated pedals on my big board are.
 
Just jumped aboard the MS-70CDR bandwagon.

I've been gassing for a shimmer reverb for ages, and this has a few different types built in. Plus on the lookout for a decent phaser.

Can anyone tell me if there are any reverb/delay models with lo-cut / hi-pass filters on the reverb sound to avoid muddiness when used with bass? This was one of my favourite features of my old EHX SMMH.


The 70cdr has the same bass, I think
It's a 7 band, EQ as the 60b. It works great if you need to add any EQ to any effect in patch.

I'm happy to see some of my effects brethren jumping on the 70cdr wagon. Finally!! Haha. I've had this pedal for almost a year, and while I don't use it heavily, when I do use it, it's a great resource to have. As stated, it won't replace an entire pedal board, but it will do the job of some odds and ends well enough in a live setting. Just make sure you're powering it with a good power supply too as it is digital and pulls quite a bit of ma comparably. I still use my 1spot and my board isn't the quietest, but it's not noisy enough for me to want to change or upgrade my power selections now.