Can we stop with the balls references already?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by ChadTheRat, Jun 15, 2020.

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  1. ChadTheRat


    Nov 17, 2019
    I don't care what your gender or orientation are, but can we please stop using genitals as reference words for tonal characteristics, etc? I can only imagine that most female players are more sick of it than I am. It's the 21st century, and I'd like to think that we as musicians and creative types can agree that bass is not just for 12 year old boys who think that every balls joke is the most clever thing in the world. I for one would like to see manufacturers take a more inclusive, mature, and professional approach to marketing. And tone is so subjective, you can literally use any word to describe what you're hearing, so why do we constantly refer to balls when other words like punch, boom, gusto, substance, drive, and many others can serve essentially the same purpose?

    Anyone feel similarly? Anyone have suggestions for alternative words?

    I just want to ensure everyone who wants to play bass feels welcome in the club!
  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    My bass tone has a whole lot of spleen to it! (Any better?) :p
  3. QweziRider

    QweziRider Gold Supporting Member

    Sep 15, 2008
    Northern Nevada, U.S.
    Nope. Not particularly.
  4. Peteyboy


    Apr 2, 2018
    Los Angeles
    Not sure where you live but there is one whole hell of a lot going on right now. Under ordinary circumstances (whatever THAT looks like) this would strike me as an odd thing to focus on, but I'd keep my mouth shut about it. As it stands I'm just gonna say that I do not imagine that this is anyone's highest priority right now. Doesn't make it a completely invalid concern, but on a scale of 1-100 you're looking at like around a 4.
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  5. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    My bass tone got some booty? :confused:
  6. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    You'd have to do it literally, because that's how words are used.
    I want to know what Wooly means, & how about Warm?
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  7. Roland GR 88

    Roland GR 88 Commercial User

    Sep 16, 2013
    Ontario Canada
    Retail store manager
    "Balls" is a colloquial expression carried over from the days of cannons and cannon balls.
    "That guy has balls." "Balls to the walls boys!" and other expressions of the day all have roots in naval campaigns of yore.
    The correct term has always been testicles. You've simply been understanding it incorrectly.....:)
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  8. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Allentown, PA!
    I totally understand why you feel its crude and maybe a little immature.
    Yet as this point it is a pretty baked-in term in general parlance, and as such easy to interpret and hard to eliminate -- also a bit past being truly offensive.
  9. CaptRigaud


    Oct 3, 2019
    Yes, it has been ever so slightly bothering me for a while. I don't find it particularly offensive but I agree that there are much better non-genital(/gendered) expressions.
  10. ChadTheRat


    Nov 17, 2019
    Good points, all around. It just struck me as a little tired and I'm curious about what others think.
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  11. Nashrakh


    Aug 16, 2008
    Hamburg, Germany
    Those are also very masculine, aggressive terms. I'm sure we can do better.
  12. ChadTheRat


    Nov 17, 2019
    I totally get this sentiment. I live in Ontario, Canada, and though our cities are not burning we do have many issues to deal with here as well. I didn't mean to distract from the reality of the pain and discrimination that so many are going through and have been going through for centuries. My friends to the south, you're dealing with real actual chaos right now, and I recognize things are pretty ugly. I have hope that people can come through it and make the world better for everyone, but right now things are pretty scary. I apologize if I've stepped on anyone's toes. No harm intended. I hope you are keeping healthy and safe. ✌️♥️
  13. Funky Ghost

    Funky Ghost Translucently Groovy

    As in all communication, context and the person delivering it set my flags flying, or not. Generally it's complimentary and in fact I've heard more than my fair share of women using it as well in the same manner. I personally don't use it but it's only because I like to think of myself as a wordsmith and like to flex the vocab a little :) It doesn't offend me and unless it's demonstratively negative in it's delivery I couldn't be bothered.

    I respect others that find it less than desirable.
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  14. No.
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  15. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    I like that better than the way we used to describe mid-range.
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  16. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    What's the consensus around bronze nuts?
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  17. baileyboy

    baileyboy Inactive

    Aug 12, 2010
    You've got balls for posting this. I identify as a 12 year old boy.
  18. As Gunnery Sgt Hartman would say:

    "Sound Off Like You've got a Pair" :cool:
  19. I'm with ChadTheRat.

    Let's move on to d!ck references.
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  20. rufus.K


    Oct 18, 2015
    My skin is too thick for things like that to offend me.

    I can dig if someone doesnt feel in their power because theres a heterogametic reference.. we should not , however, all close our eyes and ears and ignore that everyone else is different yet they still exist.

    Balls in this case is an adjective, not a noun.
    Its not derogatory towards testicles.
    Even if a female says it.

    Its just like your tone may have grace, bounce, zest, richness, or grit... theyre all descriptive terms dissociated from gender, race, or politics... until someone drags them in to gender, race, or politics.

    Nobody giggles when they say their Pbass with flats and tort has balls... we know what theyre trying to say to describe.
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