Carnivore Diet vs Playing Bass?

[Rayjay]

I've been on the carnivore diet since December-ish (including falling off the wagon a few times). It's where you basically eat only meat and salt, no vegetables or fruits, no grains, no sugar or carbs. Many health benefits. I digress.

Anyone else on this diet experience cold hands and feet? It's making playing the bass a little harder. Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this. I believe it's a symptom of ketosis.

 

[fhm555]

Aren't cold extremities an indication of circulation problems? Unless of course it is in fact buttarse cold and one is outside and inadequately dressed for the weather.

 

[knumbskull]

If you're on an unconventional diet and you are experiencing health issues that you believe are related to it, I would guess that it's probably best to see a doctor.

That's about as sensible an answer as I can manage.

 

[bassdude51]

There's no substitute for a good, excellent diet of all of the food groups.

All meat? YIKES! What is your cholesterol? 500?

 

[Pyrrho Epoche]

When I want to get ripped up, I only eat protein and milk(aminos). Your body needs sugars, so why cut out all fruits? On these diets, It is crucial to exercise. I was keto for about two years straight and people thought that I was taking steroids. Carbs are good for energy, but if you are not exercising, they can convert to estrogens in your body, stomach and give you a gut and man boobies. Everybodys body has a somewhat different tolerance towards different foods. When I stopped listening to people, and started listening to my body, I had the best gains in the gym.
Circulation issues can show up when blood sugar levels are disrupted--cold and tingly extremities. Cinnamon is good for evening out sugar levels.

 

[Killing Floor]

Band name alert -


Dütch öVen

 

[gln1955]

What are these many health benefits?

You know, humans are designed to be omnivores. Any kind of extreme diet is just messing up the system.

If you are having symptoms of ketosis, I'd be worried about more than how it affects your bass playing.

 

[Pyrrho Epoche]

This is keto after a year. I would stop keto if you are having issues.

 

[Pyrrho Epoche]

Ok, I thought keto was just no carbs. I was meats, milks with kale mostly and blueberries everyday, but little fruits. Maca powder, coffee, cigars, creatine. Vitamins.... Yea, I would not recommend straight keto. Maybe for a week, but thats it. Alternate diets.

 

[Lance Bunyon]

Did that diet 22 years ago and was rail thin. Zero energy.
These days I eat vegan most days until dinner. Less cholesterol overall. Five foot 6.5 inches, 144.8 lbs, 58 years old. Could improve the BMI by a C hair but it's pretty good overall.
All meat diet is dangerous.
Owsley Stanley did it and look what happened to him.
Got hit by a car...

 

[Pilgrim]

I've been on the carnivore diet since December-ish (including falling off the wagon a few times). It's where you basically eat only meat and salt, no vegetables or fruits, no grains, no sugar or carbs. Many health benefits. I digress.

Anyone else on this diet experience cold hands and feet? It's making playing the bass a little harder. Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this. I believe it's a symptom of ketosis.

I'm married to a very smart lady with a degree in foods and nutrition. My daughter is a Registered Dietitian and has a certification in eating disorders.

The comment above is absolutely correct: humans are omnivores. They need to eat like omnivores.

I also know the answer for the OP: immediately discontinue the diet you're on, eat a balanced diet, get exercise, and you'll live a happy life. People create many more problems than they solve by getting on wacky diets that are not medically required.

If the OP wants a referral to my daughter who also counsels online, I'll be glad to provide it. Her consultation is not free.

 

[Bob_Ross]

The carnivore diet has its pros, especially for those who want to cut out carbs and focus on protein.

Isn't that axiomatic?

 

[FugaziBomb]

Try the Carnival Diet. You only eat deep fried candy bars, twinkles, and pancake batter. I've never felt worse in my life.

 

[Zooberwerx]

Used to do nutritional assessment years ago in a physiology lab...caloric requirements, substrate utilization, etc. Bottom line and per a Physician friend: "don't eat anything that comes in cellophane".

Riis

 

[five7]

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Christian Bale starred in the The Machinist. To prepare for the role, he initially only smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey. His diet later expanded to include black coffee, an apple and a can of tuna per day.
One of the wildest diet's I have heard of.

My favorite is an anti-inflammatory diet. Cuts bad carbs and will make you feel better. Watch yourself with an all protein diet.

 

[turf3]

How's your crop of kidney and gall stones coming along? Gout progressing nicely? Got your stents lined up?

I subscribe to the policy: "Eat food. Mostly vegetables. Not too much. Eat a good mix. Anything your great-grandmother wouldn't have recognized as food, don't eat it."

 

[5StringBlues]

You doesn't have to call him Johnson

 

[never-enough]

There's lots of people in this thread offering their advice on what you should/shouldn't be eating, and I bet no one has even met you, OP.
In my experience, different foods will cause different responses in different people.
My diet allows me to avoid needing any medicines to manage any health conditions, I do that via the food I eat/avoid.
But I wouldn't recommend my diet to anyone else, as it's only about a 10% chance it would also be helpful to them.
It's always best to get to know your own body well enough to give it what it needs (and more importantly avoid giving it what it doesn't).

Most people have a philosophy about what they think is a "good" diet, but that's not how nutrition actually works.
Best of luck!

 

[Dimension]

I have gone down the nutrition rabbit hole extensively for many years. Here are some things that are coming to mind after reading your post:


1. Protein is not directly converted by the body into ATP. Fat and carbs are. Your body can convert excess protein it cannot synthesize into carbs via gluconeogenesis which will raise blood sugar levels.

2. The Carnivore diet is not the ketogenic diet. Keto, simply put, is a macronutrient intake of 80% fat, 15% protein, 5% carbs. Eating mostly protein will not put nor keep you in a ketogenic state.

3. If maintaining ketosis is a goal are you testing your ketone levels on a daily or weekly basis? They make ketone strips the same as blood sugar strips for diabetics. It does require a finger prick. The breath analyzers and urine strips are not reliable long term as ketones in your breath and urine will go down over time if you maintain ketosis.

4. Cold appendages are not a symptom of being in ketosis. You may need to simply eat more of what you are currently eating. Protein and fat are very satiating which makes it easy to eat less and feel like you are eating enough. Record your caloric intake everyday for about 7-10 days to make sure you are getting enough calories daily for your bodyweight and activity level.

6. Any diet must be confirmed it is not doing harm by testing biomarkers every two to three months for the first year. The once a year blood tests we get are not often enough. This is easier said than done since most doctors will not order billable blood tests every quarter. Some labs provide private services.

 

[pcake]

but if you eat nothing but meat, it is pretty much also keto as meat has no carbs. strict keto may have more requirements, as Dimension says. and i hang out of myfitnesspal, where hundreds of people talk keto (and some carnivore), and something i read is that people who switch to a diet restricting foods often ends up eating less calories, whether they mean to or not.

that being said, carbs are what your body uses for energy. lots of people who go keto spend around 6 weeks tired out, colder than normal and some other stuff as the body starts to adapt - it's often referred to as the "keto flu", but it seems like this would apply to a meat-only diet. meat also has lots of cholesterol, so it can cause blockage, which limits blood flow and can also lead to cold hands and feet.