Assuming you sell your 410 to fund a transition, There's a lot of good in that recommendation. Also, there are some 212s kicking around that will get the job done.
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Changing Ohm load without adding cabinets?
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@Selios - the original post in this thread posed an invalid question. What I’ve seen in this thread is people who have tried to help by educating and problem solving, which necessarily deconstructs the faulty premise. Have some patience with folks as they try to kindly steer you in the right direction. Information is being provided free of charge and intended for your benefit.
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I can be seen multiple times in this thread expressing my gratitude for the replies which constructively provided me information without implying that myself and the musicians I play with are of poor quality, thank you.
And you might stop back and let us know what you did. I kinda like hearing what guys end up doing. Usually it's not anything we suggested.
Of course! Given what I said about my budget, nothing might happen in the short term, but I’m keeping my eyes open for a few things now. Potentially a nice pair of 2x10s or a 4 ohm 2x12 like you’d suggested.
Post your EQ settings if you get a chance. What kind of bass are you playing? How do you have the EQ on the bass set up?
Keep you eyes peeled for a free box to sit your 410 on and let you hear yourself.
I play two Ibanez ATK series basses, an ATK300 4 string and a Premium ATK805e 5 string. Also a couple Fenders but mostly these 2 active Ibanezes. I generally like a clean sound and EQ to suit the room. Usually leave the bass control flat or sometimes with a slight cut to tame any muddiness and supplement with low mids/mids. On the basses I am usually using the bridge pickup and generally the onboard EQ stays flat or at least only minor adjustments take place at the bass.
Edit: for what it's worth, I believe the 4 band EQ on the amp is as follows:
100hz lows, 800hz "low mids", 3k high mids, and 10k treble.
I do have a pedal compressor right now, the TC Electronic Spectracomp. It is useful and sounds alright. I'm not so keen on the fact that it needs a power supply (no battery option), but that's minor. Being a multiband compressor it definitely fills out some frequencies but doesn't net any more headroom. There is also a compressor on the amp. It is notorious to players on this forum for clipping. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, the gain staging (including the compressor control) on this amp is a bit weird. Normally I leave this compressor off, because when it clips, it sounds pretty terrible. Perhaps there is a trick to it, but most players here turn it off. It does have some substantial gain and volume on tap though, provided that it doesn't clip. I really like the sound of this amp even without it. I'll experiment with these compressors more though, thank you.
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Yes, definitely have to try this simple trick. I saw Steve Harris' solo band "British Lion" play a few months ago and he had 2 4x10s, one on each side of the stage, both sitting atop a table. Must be worth trying! Thanks
Yes, but we aren't always perceived exclusively by our better moments. I think most people on TB would agree that volume and dynamic control are an important consideration. It's not the first time this idea has surfaced, so it's not a personal suggestion. It is one of many possible solutions to the problem of being adequately heard. Also, most people on TB have a familial relationship with some of their fellow musicians, so I don't view the comments you refer to as worthy of high indignation.
I had a MAG rig once, and it was a great rig. I had a 4x10" combo and a 1x15" cab.
Unfortunately, it's definitely one of the cheaper cabinets out there. The problem with cheap cabinets is cheap speakers, and they're usually not that efficient (meaning that a lot of the energy your amps gives them gets wasted as heat) and that they don't have a great deal of excursion (the speakers don't move in and out much). In short, they're quieter.
It's not that a 4x10" isn't enough for you, a different 4x10" might do well enough. For me, I went from the full stack to a GK 2x12" and then to a Barefaced 1x12" and I didn't really lose that much maximum volume between each rig.
I don't know where you are, but here you can get ceramic magnet cabinets for very cheap on ebay and gumtree. Two Ashdown 4x10" would be ear-bleeding, even the MAGs.
I used to have that cab. The only thing I recall is that it was heavy. But the comments about efficiency are all true. I also seem to recall that in general 12" speakers aren't inherently efficient. One of the least efficient cabs I had was a 12 that was 95 dB 1w@1m. Look for something over 100 dB.
Wire two isolated speakon for 4-ohm each to the cab.
Run the pre-amp out from you head into a power amp
Run your amp into one 4-ohm speakon, and the power amp into another.
$150 and less than 7lbs, same tone.
Squeezing out every watt will not necessarily make you louder. YMMV
Run the pre-amp out from you head into a power amp
Run your amp into one 4-ohm speakon, and the power amp into another.
$150 and less than 7lbs, same tone.
Squeezing out every watt will not necessarily make you louder. YMMV
Spreading your cabinets on opposite sides of the stage won't help your problem; actually you'll end up with reduced bottom end. This is frequency dependent on the distance between the speakers.
It's better to couple them side by side or stacked.
