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Choosing a Tablet for Reading Charts

I see a lot more guys in local bands using an iPad. I'm old school and memorize everything I can, or just wing it if its a 145. I always wonder though if you can become too dependent on them, like for every song, and then they malfunction or die; then what ? I do own an iPad, ( my second ) because the first one died on me with no warning. Luckily it was still in warranty, so Apple replaced it.
It certainly is good to be "off book" whenever possible - and it can indeed be harder to achieve that when you start out with charts. But when I'm juggling 10 or so different projects, sometimes I have to take the path of least resistance.
The only iPad failure I've witnessed thus far was with an older one with a weak battery (and probably an inadequate charger). For important shows, I always bring the right charger with a long cord - and keep the set list on my phone - and try to memorize as much as I can. :cool:
 
I'm using a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 that I've owned for around 7 or 8 years. It's rooted so I was able to shut down a ton of background apps and automatic updates, I only turn on the wifi radio when I need it, and I run it dark mode. I don't use it for anything else, and I don't recharge it unless I have to.

I write my own tabs on a PC using the Notepad++ text editor, upload them to Dropbox, download them locally to the tablet, and use the QuickEdit text editor app (which uses very little resources) to view them on the tablet. I can open an entire gig's worth of tabs in the app at once.

All of this means the battery isn't completely worked over and still lasts quite a long time. If I were to use it for an entire 4-hour show, I would expect to use 8-10% of the battery. Much to the chagrin of Samsung and Apple, I expect to be able to use this tablet for at least another 5 years and there's a very good chance I will be able to use it for longer than that.

I'm quite happy with this setup and don't anticipate changing it up anytime soon. However, it did require a certain amount of technical knowledge to pull it all together and maintain, so it might not be for everyone.
 
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I have never owned a tablet in my life. Plenty of desktops and a laptop, never a tablet. But it appears that the entire reading world has converted. And I never make a major purchase without research and lots of it, especially something that I never bought before. Sooooo…

1. Will I look like a ne’er do well if I don’t have an iPad? Or would a solid Android tablet that doesn’t cost as much still make me acceptable and be as easy to use as iPads seem?

2. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better but how big is too big? Same for RAM and storage space as I can’t imagine there being a need for the.highest speed and storage just to flip thru sheet music and DL some MP3’s sometimes.

3. I have no idea what some decent software for organizing your music and making it easy to find quickly exists. Got suggestions for both Apple and Android?

4. What kind of average battery time can I expect out of one?

I want to do it right the first time, but I don’t like spending more than I need to spend. Thx for any advice you can toss my way!
Huge!

Look at either the biggest I-pad you can get, or the biggest galaxy tab you can get.

Tablets for charts sucks so hard, but you can make it work. My church just switched to tablet with an app, and I hate it. But, it does work.

To me, nothing beats pieces of paper laid out in front of you. You place multiple sheet songs in order, and you can do it all without swiping and enlarging anything. Then shrinking it back down so you can swipe to the next page, while playing at the same time. It's terrible. But, I make it work regardless. And, I don't b*&$< about it.
 
I have never owned a tablet in my life. Plenty of desktops and a laptop, never a tablet. But it appears that the entire reading world has converted. And I never make a major purchase without research and lots of it, especially something that I never bought before. Sooooo…

1. Will I look like a ne’er do well if I don’t have an iPad? Or would a solid Android tablet that doesn’t cost as much still make me acceptable and be as easy to use as iPads seem?

2. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better but how big is too big? Same for RAM and storage space as I can’t imagine there being a need for the.highest speed and storage just to flip thru sheet music and DL some MP3’s sometimes.

3. I have no idea what some decent software for organizing your music and making it easy to find quickly exists. Got suggestions for both Apple and Android?

4. What kind of average battery time can I expect out of one?

I want to do it right the first time, but I don’t like spending more than I need to spend. Thx for any advice you can toss my way!

One, size matters to me. I use my IPad Pro with a the biggest screen I could get. You can get a whole page in standard notation using forscore software (free btw). It saves constant page flipping as well as being much easier to read that the smaller screens.

Two, you need a pedal to turn pages, this allows you to keep your hands on the bass where they belong. In another shameless plug, AirTurn has a two button bluetooth stomp pedal that will not send more than one page when activated. I had the pedal that had two plastic tabs instead of buttons that would advance more than one page from time to time.
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Some people claim they get dependent on the music sheets, but not me. Unless it’s hard or I don’t play it regularly, I have no problem memorizing a song after about three or four times with the chart. And I do a fair amount of gigging where sight reading is a requirement. I even memorized a handful of pieces from the Bach cello suites. Took me more than four times though :)

All of my band's repertoire is memorised except for one song that has become my nemesis! "Get what you give" by the New Radicals. It sounds ridiculous as it's seemingly such an easy tune, but the bassline is constantly changing throughout the song and I get a mental block, every, single, time!

I'm also crap at remembering lyrics. So for the handful of tunes I do sing lead, it's useful.
 
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Oh, I forgot to mention. Battery life. On the iPad it's fine, as expected really. As with any tablet/phone/laptop device, if you manage the energy usage by keeping the screen brightness down and turning off features you don't need such as wifi/bluetooth etc it'll last ages.

However, I have been pleasantly surprised by the Kindle Fire 8". I had an older Fire 7 a few years ago and it's battery life was rubbish. I used the Kindle 8 at this weekends gig and it only lost about 20% during the entire 3+1/2 hours I was using it for.
 
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Galaxy A7. I think they call it a 10" screen. Costco had a bundle with a 64GB SDHC for $200 out the door. I think that package deal is done but the tablet is the same price and SDHC's are widely available and not expensive until they get *really* big, but even my 1TB was about $150...
MusicSheets Pro - IIRC $15 and well worth it. There a free-download Companion that runs on a PC and makes importation and setlist management easy. You can add annotations directly into the app. Supports white-on-black or black-on-white.
Sweetwater was running a package deal on a mikestand clamp holder and BlueTooth page flipper for $100.
With the 'Pro Level' at Guitar Unlimited you can download PDF's directly. I have some annotated paper charts I scanned in to PDF's. Whatever works.

Made the switch this summer, haven't looked back.
 
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There’s little to no QC on the average Android tablet. They also are incredibly inconsistent on software updates.

A current iPad Air is powerful and affordable. Even if you hate it the resell price will be within 20-30% of what you paid.

That’s probably a good starting point.
 
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I have never owned a tablet in my life. Plenty of desktops and a laptop, never a tablet. But it appears that the entire reading world has converted. And I never make a major purchase without research and lots of it, especially something that I never bought before. Sooooo…

1. Will I look like a ne’er do well if I don’t have an iPad? Or would a solid Android tablet that doesn’t cost as much still make me acceptable and be as easy to use as iPads seem?

2. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better but how big is too big? Same for RAM and storage space as I can’t imagine there being a need for the.highest speed and storage just to flip thru sheet music and DL some MP3’s sometimes.

3. I have no idea what some decent software for organizing your music and making it easy to find quickly exists. Got suggestions for both Apple and Android?

4. What kind of average battery time can I expect out of one?

I want to do it right the first time, but I don’t like spending more than I need to spend. Thx for any advice you can toss my way!

I started playing at my Church again in September after an 18 month recess due to the Covid-19 situation. I participated in an out door jam a few weeks before and gave my tablet a try since it was easy to scan in. I was going back and forth with paper and tablet and found the tablet worked out well and was a heck of a lot lighter than the paper. This was a planned jam list so it was not a big book of paper and it was still lighter.

So when I rejoined the group I went digital. The first two weeks I bought both paper and tablet but the binder stayed in the bag. Now just the tablet and a second one as backup (never needed)

I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+, a 12.4 inch tablet part of the Samsung Note line, Android. Incredible screen and very bright. I use MobileSheets Pro, an unbelievable app available for Android and Windows, and there is a version for the Onyx Boox E-Ink.

For Fakebooks you can load one pdf. A separate file, an csv file (spreadsheet) lists all the songs and their page numbers. Easy to setup if the csv file already exists at MobileSheets. Tedious if it is not. Always confirm the page numbers to your copy before you load it into MobileSheets.

For Church and rock local jams I load each individual song as a pdf, multiple formats are supported such as jpeg, word files (which are transposable) and some other formats. The jazz jams will likely be in the fakebooks.

It's a bit tedious to load the songs for Church as I made extensive notes on them, so I clean them up, erase some of the annotations to create a clean slate. I then use MobileSheets to annotate my music with multiple colors such as blue for directions, blue boxes around REFRAIN, VERSE, INTO, TAGS etc. I also notate Rhythm with actual note symbols in blue, and "NEXT PAGE" reminders in red, and highlight the Chords in yellow like I did on paper (lots of stuff has capo for the guitar, plus it stands out from the words).

In one page fake book mode and portrait it's very big and easy to read. In landscape mode you can have two pages at a time, and you can size it to minimize any margins and the result is a very readable and useable view. I'm picky about that.

I use a Bluetooth foot pedal to advance pages in a song.

You can sequence the pages, so if it is 3 pages and it repeats you set it up to go pages 1-3 and then 1-3 again, and any notations you made after that on the 2nd page 3 is only on the second p3 so you can make ending notes that don't appear on the 1st page 3. Any notations made initially when it's only 1-3 will be duplicated on the second set, but then separately editable. One song I set up ends on Page 3 back to page one to repeat the intro as an ending. so its 1-5, 1-5, 1-3,1. This way it's only moving forward and not jumping around. This doesn't really apply much to fake books or charts. But if the fake book is 2 pages and you want to do portrait mode you can sequence in a similar way.

In Landscape mode if you are viewing p1&2 and hit next then 2&3 are displayed. So when you start p2 advance and that way the next page is never a surprise.

I have four current purchased fakebooks, plus a number of older versions I found as pdf's. I purchased the Sher New Real Book as a pdf and it works great, the other ones I own I put through my scanner, 400*400 is the best resolution. I just bought the Hal Leonard Real Book V2 Bass on paper and ran it through the scanner, I wish it came as a pdf. The ones where you have access online is not useable, you need the actual pdf file.

You can backup to the device, to your computer via the companion or to various cloud storages.

You can also create and organize set lists, and group by collections, so I have a few "collection" titles, FakeBook, Real Book, Real Book V1, Real Book V2, plus other titles and the final, so I can list in all sorts of ways. The 5th and 6th editions of the real books have their own collection also so I can focus only on the current if need be. The Church stuff is also under a collection, as is the Aebersold books I scanned. Plus you can keep track of keys, authors, composers, genre, and some others, I added tracks for the Aebersold books and also a tempo column. Each "song"" can have multiple collections, set lists, etc

One setlist is a practice setlist for various categories.

You can share the set list listing. You can also connect multiple tablets in an orchestra etc. I just know it's available. Lots of features I did not mention, it does take time to learn how to use them all, stuff I would not have thought of that experienced people suggested.

You can control devices via midi, so if you are a keyboard player, you can change the midi patches automatically for each different song. You can also link audio files as backing tracks or for practice.

Battery life is great, rehearsal (about 3 hours) on time full brightness only gets me down to 80%. You can keep a battery pack with you, I have an adapter and cord in my gig bag.

When I make notes at rehearsal, I clean them up at home because that is me. The cool thing is the stylus (Samsung is known for their stylus, long time Note user) is magnetic and sticks to my music stand, very convenient.

A bit tedious to start but well worth it in the long run. I was convinced very quickly. Of course my office has been paperless for many years now, everything scanned since 2011, and no more printing for the office files since 2015. Now almost all the work is completely digital, received and delivered digitally. I should have done this sooner, but I guess the year and half sabbatical broke the cycle and the inertia.

I can also have multiple versions of the same song in the fakebook. One for my upright teacher to notate, and then the original to mark up for the gig. Separate play list just for my lessons.

The Onyx Boox E-Ink is probably the best battery life, but it is not in color or backlighted. If you use a music stand with a light I guess that make it workable, but for me I need the color. But it is tempting.

Even one fakebook is a pain to carry, now you can carry all your music. Just make backups of the file.

The screen off can be disabled when viewing songs or in performance mode.

I highly recommend it, but it will be an initial effort and learning curve that is worth it in my mind. It is an investment of time and money, just like everything else we use.

I also am very happy with the full Samsung Note Line, this is my second 12.4 note tablet, the other is the NotePro12.4 I think 5 years old and still works, my backup. I used these tablets extensively at work to replace paper using mostly the LectureNotes app. I have used the Samsung note phone since V4. Samsung has perfected the stylus and they work with the Wacom line of stylus since the beginning, same technology. It's like writing on paper, flawless palm rejection from the very beginning and they do not require a battery to work. Although with a battery there are some additional features. I have many normal looking pen stylus making writing just like using a pen. The stylus with the S7+ is the most comfortable built in stylus I every had. For me the extensive customization available in Android allows the tablet and phone to work for me, not the reverse. Plus with Bass callous finger tips the stylus was a must.

You could also get a Raspberry pi, and hook it to a 24" touch screen. That would be cheap and get you a big screen. OR I have heard that you can cast to the bigger screen from your phone or tablet, but that would be display only which would work for a gig.

One last thought, you already look cool because your the bass player! I always thought the tablet looked cool but inertia stopped me. Jump in, the water's great.

Ray
 
I have never owned a tablet in my life. Plenty of desktops and a laptop, never a tablet. But it appears that the entire reading world has converted. And I never make a major purchase without research and lots of it, especially something that I never bought before. Sooooo…

1. Will I look like a ne’er do well if I don’t have an iPad? Or would a solid Android tablet that doesn’t cost as much still make me acceptable and be as easy to use as iPads seem?

2. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better but how big is too big? Same for RAM and storage space as I can’t imagine there being a need for the.highest speed and storage just to flip thru sheet music and DL some MP3’s sometimes.

3. I have no idea what some decent software for organizing your music and making it easy to find quickly exists. Got suggestions for both Apple and Android?

4. What kind of average battery time can I expect out of one?

I want to do it right the first time, but I don’t like spending more than I need to spend. Thx for any advice you can toss my way!

Wired recommend the No
I have never owned a tablet in my life. Plenty of desktops and a laptop, never a tablet. But it appears that the entire reading world has converted. And I never make a major purchase without research and lots of it, especially something that I never bought before. Sooooo…

1. Will I look like a ne’er do well if I don’t have an iPad? Or would a solid Android tablet that doesn’t cost as much still make me acceptable and be as easy to use as iPads seem?

2. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better but how big is too big? Same for RAM and storage space as I can’t imagine there being a need for the.highest speed and storage just to flip thru sheet music and DL some MP3’s sometimes.

3. I have no idea what some decent software for organizing your music and making it easy to find quickly exists. Got suggestions for both Apple and Android?

4. What kind of average battery time can I expect out of one?

I want to do it right the first time, but I don’t like spending more than I need to spend. Thx for any advice you can toss my way!

Wired recommends;
“The 9th-generation iPad is the best tablet for most people, and it's the most affordable iPad. It has the same shape and size, so all current accessories will still work, including the first-generation Apple Pencil and the Smart Keyboard. It retains the Home button and thick borders around the 10.2-inch screen.” The 64Gb is $329.
The Best iPad to Buy (and the Ones to Avoid)


OnSong is perfect for importing and viewing all your current Music. I’ve found that 1000 songs take up around 1Gb

OnSong & The iPad work well will the Airturn Foot Pedal.
 
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I have never owned a tablet in my life. Plenty of desktops and a laptop, never a tablet. But it appears that the entire reading world has converted. And I never make a major purchase without research and lots of it, especially something that I never bought before. Sooooo…

1. Will I look like a ne’er do well if I don’t have an iPad? Or would a solid Android tablet that doesn’t cost as much still make me acceptable and be as easy to use as iPads seem?

2. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better but how big is too big? Same for RAM and storage space as I can’t imagine there being a need for the.highest speed and storage just to flip thru sheet music and DL some MP3’s sometimes.

3. I have no idea what some decent software for organizing your music and making it easy to find quickly exists. Got suggestions for both Apple and Android?

4. What kind of average battery time can I expect out of one?

I want to do it right the first time, but I don’t like spending more than I need to spend. Thx for any advice you can toss my way!

Don’t have time to read through all the great responses you’ll get yet, but…

- I use an iPad. Frankly, I view it as the more foolproof and stable solution. I actually have an iPad Pro that I do my day job from, so that just works fine.

- No such thing as too big for screen. When it comes to storage, keep in mind that you may have some charts as images.

- forScore seems to work pretty well. One feature that’s nice is that if I take photos of a chart, I can import it into the app and even export it as a PDF (it basically behaves as if you’ve scanned the photo).

- depends on how you use it, whether you turn it off, etc.

Get an AirTurn Manos, the AirTurn goStand and the AirTurn duo pedal and you’ll be all set.
 
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I have an iPad with Songbook installed. I only use it with one band, and others in that band are using the same app with Android systems; seems to all work fine. Songbook allows the BL to put playlists in Dropbox that we all have access to, so it's nice that way. I have never tried to create a chart for it, so have no idea how user friendly (or not) that process might be.
 
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I know people who use iPads. I've used both a Surface Pro Tablet as well as Android. No one is going to look down on you for not having an iPad but if you need a specific app or program, that may influence your decision.

I use the Onyx Boox Air Note which is a 10.3" eInk-based Android tablet. For the software, I use Zubersoft's MobileSheets Pro. He makes a specific eInk version but there's also a normal Android as well as a Windows 10 version. I had the bigger 13.3 Onyx but I found it more cumbersome size/weight wise. The 10.3" backlit is fine for me, but 13.3 or 12.9 is closer to real paper size.

eInk is super easy to read especially for prolonged periods vs. a standard LCD or OLED screen.

For some gigs (mainly big band) I use a bluetooth pedal for turning pages.

I get weeks of battery with the tablet.
 
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I have never owned a tablet in my life. Plenty of desktops and a laptop, never a tablet. But it appears that the entire reading world has converted. And I never make a major purchase without research and lots of it, especially something that I never bought before. Sooooo…

1. Will I look like a ne’er do well if I don’t have an iPad? Or would a solid Android tablet that doesn’t cost as much still make me acceptable and be as easy to use as iPads seem?

2. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better but how big is too big? Same for RAM and storage space as I can’t imagine there being a need for the.highest speed and storage just to flip thru sheet music and DL some MP3’s sometimes.

3. I have no idea what some decent software for organizing your music and making it easy to find quickly exists. Got suggestions for both Apple and Android?

4. What kind of average battery time can I expect out of one?

I want to do it right the first time, but I don’t like spending more than I need to spend. Thx for any advice you can toss my way!
1. Odd first question. What do you care what others think, as long as your choice gets the job done?
2. There is no “too big” where screen size is concerned for reading music. The only limitation is your willingness to carry around that extra, pricey piece of gear in exchange for the wonderful trade off of never having to take your hand away from your instrument in order to turn a page.
4. For a fully charged unit that is not years old, you should be able to expect to get through any gig. Unless you are playing with Hot Tuna, in which case you might run out of power before the gig is over.
 
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Not sure if it has been mentioned, but with the size, you also need to think about screen ratio. The iPad is a 4:3 aspect ratio, which makes looking at a standard 8.5x11 paper easier. I had an older android tablet and everything looked skewed or the page was cropped funny. Even with the 10" iPad screen, I can read pages better.

now, if I had the extra cash, I wish I had gotten the pro with the 13" screen. It's almost doable to turn it sideways and have two pages side by side.

for me with the regular ipad battery life is great. I can go through a 3 hour gig and still have like 70% battery. I bought a long charging cable just in case, and it blends in fine if needs be.

and yeah you'll want to get a good bluetooth pedal for page turns.
 
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iPad Air 2 user here…absolutely zero problems.

if your device has WiFi, turn it off during music use; same with Bluetooth if you don’t need page turning, as both suck up a lot of battery juice.

ive used Songfile Pro since I started doing this…works perfectly
 
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