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CITES wait times at the Canadian border

About six weeks ago I placed an order through my local Long & McQuade for a new bass... probably my first new instrument in like 20 years, which makes this situation all the more frustrating. The bass I wanted would have to be ordered in from Fender and would take ~15 days to arrive. OK, fine, a little wait will just add to the anticipation.

After about a month of being strung along (“should be in this week or next,” etc.), I went in today and was told it was likely held up at the border due to CITES and that they had no idea when it was due in. Apparently they have a lot of frustrated customers atm dealing with similar issues.

I get that it’s not the store’s fault, and there’s nothing I can do other than wait it out. and I certainly don’t disagree with the principle of having strong regulations in place when it comes to protecting endangered species. but I'm wondering if anyone with retail experience can shed some light on what the process of importing a RW bass into Canada entails, and how much of a wait I'm actually in for.

thanks for any insight you guys can provide. the irony is that I prefer maple fretboards, but the model I wanted was only available in RW. lol.


So, if the wait for SITES to process takes longer than the company's trial period can you still send it back, or does the time start once YOU have the instrument?
 
I'm truly sorry you don't have your bass. Waiting bites.

Slim pickings there, unfortunately.
Bullshoney.

Paul Saunders. George Furlanetto. There are more, but those two suffice for any bassist.

You wanted a Fender and you went to L&M, which is natural, because they are the largest distributor and the largest retailer in Kanukistan, doing what they can to put all little stores out of business.

Don't believe me; ask any independent music store owner. For several reasons I wouldn't buy a cord from L&M, but they don't miss my business.
 
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Bullshoney again. Custom makers make what the customer wants.
That depends on the maker - not every luthier is flexible with every design aspect. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Not everyone wants to design his or her own bass - or go with an independent luthier. If you want a Fender then you want a Fender. If you want an MTD then you want an MTD, and so on and so forth.
 
CITES enforcement against the instrument makers is a great big cluster. As though reining in use on musical instruments is going to save the rain forests. What a sad joke. Those trees are being burned to enable "economic development" at rates that make the harvest for the instruments a drop in the bucket.

But, I guess it provides employment for the enforcement minded folks....
 
That depends on the maker - not every luthier is flexible with every design aspect.

Obviously you are unaware of the two I mentioned, who are exceptionally talented, experienced, adaptable, and amenable to customer input. Which is why I mentioned them.

No, they won't put Fender on the headstock. If you wanted that style however, the result would rival (be better than actually, but this is TB where Fender is the standard) anything the Fender factory ever turned out.

MY point was to counter the complete nonsense that Kanuks have slim pickings when choosing instruments. We have plenty of choice.

Long & McQuade is both the retailer and the distributor for much of what comes into the country. Even if the typically clueless L&M salesperson didn't know, his or her boss likely did. No excuse, except that's typical L&M behavior.
 
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Obviously you are unaware of the two I mentioned, who are exceptionally talented, experienced, adaptable, and amenable to customer input. Which is why I mentioned them.

No, they won't put Fender on the headstock. If you wanted that style however, the result would rival (be better than actually, but this is TB where Fender is the standard) anything the Fender factory ever turned out.

MY point was to counter the complete nonsense that Kanuks have slim pickings when choosing instruments. We have plenty of choice.

Long & McQuade is both the retailer and the distributor for much of what comes into the country. Even if the typically clueless L&M salesperson didn't know, his or her boss likely did. No excuse, except that's typical L&M behavior.
I've played several F basses but I've never seen an F bass that didn't look like an F bass. George's basses are customizable but, to my knowledge, he is no more a custom builder than is Roger Sadowsky. Anyway, the point isn't whether or not there are luthiers in Canada, as there are a bunch. The point is that the basses most bassists in Canada want are from the U.S. and it's a pain in the butt getting some of those basses across the border right now.
 
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The point is that the basses most bassists in Canada want are from the U.S. and it's a pain in the butt getting some of those basses across the border right now.
Don't blame the US for that. Correct me if I am wrong, but, isn't it the Canadian Customs that is holding back the instruments from being delivered to the stores/customers?

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Anyway, the point isn't whether or not there are luthiers in Canada, as there are a bunch.

Ah... you acknowledge our choices are better than your original slim pickings. Glad to read we're now on the same page. :)

The point is that the basses most bassists in Canada want are from the U.S. and it's a pain in the butt getting some of those basses across the border right now.

I'll never claim to know what anybody besides me wants, and so accept your posit.
 
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Don't blame the US for that. Correct me if I am wrong, but, isn't it the Canadian Customs that is holding back the instruments from being delivered to the stores/customers?

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I'm not blaming the U.S., Canada or anyone else for that matter. Just stating a fact about the increased difficulty getting rosewood across the border. :)
 
I'm not blaming the U.S., Canada or anyone else for that matter. Just stating a fact about the increased difficulty getting rosewood across the border. :)
Hey, we got to blame someone for screwing things up, here! :D Who shall it be? ;)

I bet that up until around the beginning of 2017, it wasn't so hard to import instruments with rosewood fingerboards. :thumbsup:
 
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Not everybody can afford custom builds. Dingwall and Godin are the only brands I know of, that are remotely affordable.

If you consider a Canadian Dingwall "affordable" then you could go with a huge number of options. Stock ABZs start around $3000 CDN last time I checked.

Undocumented immigrant with diseases at Canadian border = welcome!
Undocumented guitar with rosewood at Canadian border = denied

typical Canadian stupidity

Really? We're going down that road in this thread?
 
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I'm surprised that L&M didn't have what you wanted somewhere in Canada. I just bought a Rumblekat from them and they didn't have one in any store in Ontario though they did have a few in the warehouse and some in stores out in Alberta.

I guess if I decide to go out and blow more money due to GAS, I guess I'll call the store and ask if it's in country first. Maybe I'll just settle for buying something with a maple neck. They can't give us poopie for maple, we're surrounded by the damn trees.!

Hopefully your wait isn't long.