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Cliff Burton Hype

#281
I am going to try and make this my last off topic post, but I really just want to throw this idea out there.

Certain innovative bands that spawned a genre should really be put in a sub-genre of the genre they created.

Founder (Genre)... ie:
Founder Thrash would hold Metallica, because Metallica created thrash yet they were not purely thrash (There where maybe only 3 thrash songs per cd, the rest where of a different style of metal).
(Regular) Thrash would have bands that are pure thrash like Fueled By Fire, Skeleton Witch, and other bands that designate that they play thrash.

Any one get what I'm saying?
 
#282
RapierSix said:
Certain innovative bands that spawned a genre should really be put in a sub-genre of the genre they created...Any one get what I'm saying?
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I totally get what you're saying. Thank you for posting this. I think bands that play a particular style should be put in a genre and then a subgenre because they don't want to be mistaken for something else. For example, Cannibal Corpse makes a point of saying they are Death Metal and not just Metal. Alright, back to the topic of Cliff Burton Hype.
 
#284
Cliff Burton was the perfect example of a bassist playing for the song. At the same time, he added a lot of harmony into the mix, and wrote some of their best riffs. His solos, few of them as there may be, were perfectly composed, especially in Orion, and the intro to Damage Inc.
 
#285
To each their own, I personally dont give a crap what genre anybody thinks Metallica is in, and I doubt they do either.

Cliff Burton played for a great influental metal band. Call them thrash, call em speed metal, or just plain metal. They were original in their time. I remember first hearing Ride The Lightning and thought there was nothing else like it.
 
#287
musicelectronix said:
You will understand Cliff Burton, when you realize music is not a compliation of single instruments playing together, but a collaboration of emotions represented by musicians.
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finally.. wake up guys.

he wrote pulling teeth when he was 21 i think. and from that age to he was 24 he had made alot of stuff into his solos.
maybe alot of you dont favor is sound, or style but think about it, how many other bassists around the world play solos in that way?
tell me someone?

geddy lee - not that kind of playing
geezer butler - not playing like that either
stanley clarke - different sound, different feel of his solos
billy sheehan - only playing fast, alot of shredding, simple scales.
lemmy - (lemmys distortion sound influenced cliff) not much solos like cliff either, different way of building solos
jaco pastorius - jazzy guy, ofc he was different to.
victor wooten - he got some nice solos, but they arnt like cliffs, no distorion and not the same feel.
Chris Squire - he wasnt playing like that either
Steve Harris - metal bassist with some solos, but cannot be compared to his.
John Entwistle - had solos with distortion , but was different as well.
.... i know some of those not are playing metal, but that doesnt really matter, they are famous bassists and they are playing solo sections.
and i could have kept on adding people, great bassists.
i haven't seen anyone to this day playing a bass solo with that amount of energy, feel and nuance.

so dislike him as much you can, saying he was **** and all.
but you have to look a bit more into how he did things, and not only listening to Pulling teeth.

maybe he wasnt a musical genius, or as technical as Stanley Clarke. But he created beautiful music, which is loved by so many fans.

i think Jason Newsteds solos are boring, and doesnt have any nuance.
i dont like Jaco Pastorius because i think hes playing was boring, victor wooten because i dont like that kind of music, billy sheehan because he is just shredding around on the fretboard. I dont have to make a thread about that ;)
 
#289
... i think the reason for why so many people are bashing cliff in threads like this is because they are preferring other bassists like jason newsted. wherever you go and read about some good bassists cliffs name is repeated. You are all feeling.. i dont know.. it feels like you are feeling provoked, because its always walks up a guy and say that cliff is better..

correct me if i am wrong, but i think thats a reason, among others:spit:
 
#296
hauntedoak said:
... i think the reason for why so many people are bashing cliff in threads like this is because they are preferring other bassists like jason newsted. wherever you go and read about some good bassists cliffs name is repeated. You are all feeling.. i dont know.. it feels like you are feeling provoked, because its always walks up a guy and say that cliff is better..

correct me if i am wrong, but i think thats a reason, among others:spit:
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You're post doesn't make a lot of sense. What is the reason? Is it just because people prefer Jason Newstead?
 
#298
JEDI BASS said:
Are you saying that a crappy guitarist could've played bass like Cliff?

I love watching a guitarist try to play a bass! Their tone sucks! They can't handle the big strings!
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Nope, what I meant was that most fairly handy guitarists solo, and that Cliff's solos sound like guitar solos.

I didn't mean his regular playing, just that his solos sound like guitar solos.
 
#299
A lot of folks keep talking about how Cliff sounded like a guitarist, well um...he played the guitar, the bass guitar. He didn't play a fretless or a stick or an upright, he played a bass guitar, 4 strings and a mess of frets and if there is only one right way to play it then I'm not interested and thankfully neither was Cliff.
 

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