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Good questions! Sorry, some of this was talked about recently a few pages back, so I didn't go into too much detail in the last post.

Bass woods = Ash/Maple
Standard model reference = ash maple with HC JJs in 60's location. I'm terrible with putting into words the tone I'm thinking for. Looking for something with a wee bit less upper mid grind while still retaining a good degree of potential "aggressiveness" that has a defined and bottom that doesn't get lost in the mix, like somewhere between the JJs and the Modern in terms of the low end, but more towards the JJs.
Pickup location preference = standard 60's location
HCs vs SCs = Yes, I've owned both, although on different basses, and the SCs add more of what I'm trying to get less of, so not considering those at the moment

Thanks for clarifying, I now see your point clearly. The soaps I think would cut that upper mids you are looking for but they also are smoother and take away some aggressiveness. Not sure if that would be a love or hate for you. Have you thought about sticking with the HCs and considered a mahogany body or an ebony board?
 
Thanks for clarifying, I now see your point clearly. The soaps I think would cut that upper mids you are looking for but they also are smoother and take away some aggressiveness. Not sure if that would be a love or hate for you. Have you thought about sticking with the HCs and considered a mahogany body or an ebony board?
I'm an ash/maple fan, so I'm sure about that part. Also, one of the key parts of my "dream bass" build is the birdseye maple fretboard. I'd rather lean towards an aggressive bass because I think it's easier to tame the aggression than to "aggravate", if you will, a naturally polite bass. My NYC alder/brazilian rw bass is on the polite side, and once the strings lose their freshness after only a single gig it's hard to get that bite back.

I appreciate the feedback though! I'm not looking for anything a world apart from what the Sadowsky HC JJ's provide with ash/maple. Just something a wee bit different. After more thought, I'm fairly certain I'll be more than content with the variety of tones I can get with the Super J. :)
 
I did something even more blasphemous… I took all the guts out of my MTD 634 And put in a Sadowski preamp and Aguilar single coil pickups.

I'm working on getting some things posted to showcase it but let's just say… It's absolutely awesome. I wouldn't dare post about it on any of the MTD fanboy threads. You guys are scary

Dude, I've got to hear this! Please post some clips please!
 
Hard to know about something you've never tried.

true dat, but that's always the game when you commission a "wish list" custom build, no? particular features are prolly individual things you've liked on various basses you've gotten to play--and maybe there are some things you've only heard about, too--but as to how the whole thing comes together for ya, well...you make the best guess you can when you order, y'know? you only know for sure when the bass is finally in your hands.
 
true dat, but that's always the game when you commission a "wish list" custom build, no? particular features are prolly individual things you've liked on various basses you've gotten to play--and maybe there are some things you've only heard about, too--but as to how the whole thing comes together for ya, well...you make the best guess you can when you order, y'know? you only know for sure when the bass is finally in your hands.
Absolutely correct, Steve. I suppose that is one reason that Roger's approval policy is so awesome. Still, waiting 9 months on hope, even when one thinks they know what is coming is difficult. And, there is definite risk that the best experience and extrapolation will not produce the desired result.

OTOH, this is a pretty reliable shop. And, I pretty much think you could put their preamp with appropriate pickups in a two by four and get good tone out of it. I guess at this point, I just trust them. Anyhow, we shall find out, eh?

Regarding the new pickup and choosing it over some other pickup scheme, I think it looks pretty cool; but, I would want to try it before specing it. But, that's just me.
 
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Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a few volunteers to evaluate a prototype string set for me. Must be someone who currently uses our Black Label Bright Nickel .45 strings. Please email me directly at [email protected] and provide your shipping address. Please include your phone number as well.
 
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Absolutely correct, Steve. I suppose that is one reason that Roger's approval policy is so awesome. Still, waiting 9 months on hope, even when one thinks they know what is coming is difficult. And, there is definite risk that the best experience and extrapolation will not produce the desired result.

OTOH, this is a pretty reliable shop. And, I pretty much think you could put their preamp with appropriate pickups in a two by four and get good tone out of it. I guess at this point, I just trust them. Anyhow, we shall find out, eh?

Regarding the new pickup and choosing it over some other pickup scheme, I think it looks pretty cool; but, I would want to try it before specing it. But, that's just me.
I think my ears have gotten pickier over the years. I'm very sensitive to consistency note-to-note and string-to-string. Even the best builders can't predict/guarantee such consistency - not to mention overall tonal character ("I ordered a rosewood board but it's as bright as maple!", for example). So I'm wary of special ordering a bass now. That being said, the return policy at Sadowsky is a great thing that offers considerable peace of mind where special ordering (or buying from the in-stock page) is concerned. :thumbsup:
 
Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a few volunteers to evaluate a prototype string set for me. Must be someone who currently uses our Black Label Bright Nickel .45 strings. Please email me directly at [email protected] and provide your shipping address. Please include your phone number as well.

What an awesome opportunity! Whether I test them, or not... Thanks, Roger!
 
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I'm an ash/maple fan, so I'm sure about that part. Also, one of the key parts of my "dream bass" build is the birdseye maple fretboard. I'd rather lean towards an aggressive bass because I think it's easier to tame the aggression than to "aggravate", if you will, a naturally polite bass. My NYC alder/brazilian rw bass is on the polite side, and once the strings lose their freshness after only a single gig it's hard to get that bite back.

I appreciate the feedback though! I'm not looking for anything a world apart from what the Sadowsky HC JJ's provide with ash/maple. Just something a wee bit different. After more thought, I'm fairly certain I'll be more than content with the variety of tones I can get with the Super J. :)
Your post is helping me spec out my next bass, even though you didn't know it when you wrote it. :D Current Sad is alder body, Braz rosewood board JJ...and it is very "polite", just what I wanted for church. Next build will be a P/J for the secular project, and I want that bass to be far less "polite" as the music calls for such (me vs. 2 screaming electric guitars, playing hard rock). I like the tone I get out of my Fender Jazz Bass Special for that, but I need it to have more "oomph" (via onboard pre) and an extra string.

Plus it's an excuse to snap up one of Roger's stunning burl body slabs...still on the fence, maple vs. amboyna? :cool:

So I'm watching your posts with some interest. It sounds like we may have similar tone goals?
 
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Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a few volunteers to evaluate a prototype string set for me. Must be someone who currently uses our Black Label Bright Nickel .45 strings. Please email me directly at [email protected] and provide your shipping address. Please include your phone number as well.
Email sent. Always willing to support research. (psych major - recruiting study subjects is HARD :D)
 
I have found myself in an original project as of late that has a tone and style very similar to these guys;

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David Supica's tone in this band is very much something I like and I knew I could get really close with my RV5 PJ, but as it was setup wasn't really there yet - a bit dark and vintage fat. His tone is very full, tight and thick but with some bite and edginess/grind that really fits. So I set out to see what I could do as we will be in Studio in a couple weeks - I started with moving from nickel to steel strings, currently lowrider but I have black and blue label Sadowsky steels coming and think the B will be better on either one of those. I also lowered my P pup down on the bass side, raised up on the treble side and just the opposite of that on the J pup. I really can't believe how much of a change this all did in the mix - I have a slight lean towards the bridge, bass boost as well as a treble boost up more but mixed with a VTC rolloff. I am plenty close to my goal if not better than I had imagined and amazed on how a few simple things can change the character of this bass. In the past I would have tried to buy another bass to get the tone goals I was seeking out. On a daily basis I am so happy I picked a Sadowsky.
 
Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a few volunteers to evaluate a prototype string set for me. Must be someone who currently uses our Black Label Bright Nickel .45 strings. Please email me directly at [email protected] and provide your shipping address. Please include your phone number as well.
oh man, I just removed those strings from my PJ5 and replaced with Blue Bright nickel...just for a change of pace!
 
Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a few volunteers to evaluate a prototype string set for me. Must be someone who currently uses our Black Label Bright Nickel .45 strings. Please email me directly at [email protected] and provide your shipping address. Please include your phone number as well.
Email sent, but then I re-read the post. I admittedly have not used the Black Label .045 set. However, I have used .045s by DR and Dunlop in both nickel and steel on my Sadowsky bass until recently I tried a light gauge set of the Blue Labels and fell in love with the sound and feel. Generally speaking, the hex core sets feel tighter and by going down to a lighter gauge they compare more with the .045 round core sets. The Blue Labels light gauge steels are my favorites that I've tried so far on my NYC 5-24, but I'm always game to try something else.
 
Hi,
I saw the string beta test invitation and noted it's for .045" which seems to be the norm.
I usually use .040" light gauge Sadowsky Black or Blue but was wondering . . .
Has anyone used .035" or other extra light gauges from other brands on their Sadowsky basses?
If so, what were the results or opinions?
Thanks!

PS I usually go along with what Roger uses for standards.
For example,
HC pups. I prefer them on my J5 but like SC's on my J4.
The pan control goes the right way for me (my local luthier annoyingly swapped the direction on a cheap bass I have . .grrr)
The mid boost I don't need at all. What Roger describes makes perfect sense.
So I guess there's a reason he doesn't make super light strings a la Wooten/King.
 
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