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Club Sadowsky!!!

#57,723
Rjb1101 said:
The super p has a different pickup. The poles are in different position. This has the same pickup in both spots and is also further apart than the Super p and super j.

https://reverb.com/item/48743156-sadowsky-vintage-24-fret-5-string-2019-greenburst
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+1 that bass has something totally different in it.

Here's a SJ/SP config. Clearly different than those pickups, and also shows how they're different from each other. FYI, the SJ is supposed to only move the poles about .5", because that's the difference between the 70's bridge pickup (closer to the bridge) and the 60's J (which is generally regarded as more popular, and why that's the standard for Sadowsky unless otherwise spec'd). But that's why the poles have to be so close together on the SJ.
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Vic said:
+1 that bass has something totally different in it.

Here's a SJ/SP config. Clearly different than those pickups, and also shows how they're different from each other. FYI, the SJ is supposed to only move the poles about .5", because that's the difference between the 70's bridge pickup (closer to the bridge) and the 60's J (which is generally regarded as more popular, and why that's the standard for Sadowsky unless otherwise spec'd). But that's why the poles have to be so close together on the SJ.
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Beautiful bass. This one looks special. The bridge switch selects either the 60's or 70's coil but what does the neck switch do? I seem to remember it being able to switch between normal or reverse P. It would be cool if it could also do the 2 inline coils closest to the neck.
 
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5StringPocket said:
Beautiful bass. This one looks special. The bridge switch selects either the 60's or 70's coil but what does the neck switch do? I seem to remember it being able to switch between normal or reverse P. It would be cool if it could also do the 2 inline coils closest to the neck.
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the neck pickup simply switches between P, reverse P, and I think maybe even all coils. But I know it at least does P and reverse P.

I'm positive it does not do anything that's not a "Z" config except if it does all coils. But I honestly think it's just P or R-P.
 
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Vic said:
the neck pickup simply switches between P, reverse P, and I think maybe even all coils. But I know it at least does P and reverse P.

I'm positive it does not do anything that's not a "Z" config except if it does all coils. But I honestly think it's just P or R-P.
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It goes P, reverse P, and both coils.
 
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Vic said:
+1 that bass has something totally different in it.

Here's a SJ/SP config. Clearly different than those pickups, and also shows how they're different from each other. FYI, the SJ is supposed to only move the poles about .5", because that's the difference between the 70's bridge pickup (closer to the bridge) and the 60's J (which is generally regarded as more popular, and why that's the standard for Sadowsky unless otherwise spec'd). But that's why the poles have to be so close together on the SJ.
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I am curious - could a satin a Modern 24 be converted to this configuration?
 
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haggardPHUNK said:
Anyone have any opinions on the Verdine White metro express?

I’m a big fan of his playing and a NYC is way out of reach.

any downsides to the Chinese version?
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H-,

I own and use the Chinese Verdine as my primary gigging bass

The downside to the entire Chinese RSD Metro Express line is the lack of VTC. Rogers pre is boost only. So imagine NOT being able to turn the brightness down on your bass. Only increasing it. Now, a "boost only' BASS control really isn't an issue. Have you ever wanted to REDUCE your bass tone from an unamplified position? Not likely. There are few basses that in a unaltered mode are too bass heavy. But having a bright or too trebly sound with no ability to quell it...that's a situation. Great news is, you can add a VTC for $99. And it basically gives you the fantastic Sadowsky sound that pre offers. Which in my experience is the absolute best onboard pre I've ever experienced ( with the VTC of course )

Now, regarding the Verdine White RSD, My bass is fantastic. So much so, that I sold my Japanese MV5 Metro Express that I paid close to 2 grand for, and opted to make the Verdine my primary gigging bass. I've switched from 5's after using them for 20+ years exclusively to 4's, and Exclusively this bass. The weight is LIGHT, the sound is Sadowsky, and the playability, and build quality are on par with the price. It takes setup well, the pickups are punchy single coils with a great authentic "P Bass" sound, with that pickup solo'd. I am a 90% bridge 10% P bass pickup player. I play mostly close to the bridge unless I need to warm things up and round them out. Then I favor the "P" pickup and can cut the treble and get a great dub bass sound. ( But without that VTC, I couldn't do that) There's no excessive noise issues, just traditional single coil sound.

Cosmetically the bass is fine as well. Good quality paint, smooth sanded neck. Easy player. Can gig for hours and hours easily. Ironically I A/B'd it against a RSD MV5 for 1 gig, and after a few tunes, I quickly put the fiver back in the bag.

I think the RSD Line would benefit greatly from either a mod to the treble side of the circuit to allow treble cut, or to include the VTC on EVERY bass. Otherwise, you too may find the inability to roll back the highs will disqualify it as an all around bass for some types of music. But that's my opinion. I'm sure there are folks on this forum that would disagree.

I also added a d-tuner, and better string tree to the headstock. But... what, I think many of us hope to see is the actual "Sadowsky" calligraphy logo on the headstock. Until then I still get alot of "what bass is that?"

Also, if you're in the US, I found a CONUS one very hard to find. There's one for sale in the classifieds right now for $725 with free ship east of the Mississippi (not mine), and 1 in VA on reverb. Thats it. I had to get mine from Thomann out of Germany, ( thru Reverb) and it was a somewhat difficult, and more costly. But it got here, and its a winner now with the mods.

Hope this helped.
 
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pb9717 said:
H-,

I own and use the Chinese Verdine as my primary gigging bass

The downside to the entire Chinese RSD Metro Express line is the lack of VTC. Rogers pre is boost only. So imagine NOT being able to turn the brightness down on your bass. Only increasing it. Now, a "boost only' BASS control really isn't an issue. Have you ever wanted to REDUCE your bass tone from an unamplified position? Not likely. There are few basses that in a unaltered mode are too bass heavy. But having a bright or too trebly sound with no ability to quell it...that's a situation. Great news is, you can add a VTC for $99. And it basically gives you the fantastic Sadowsky sound that pre offers. Which in my experience is the absolute best onboard pre I've ever experienced ( with the VTC of course )

Now, regarding the Verdine White RSD, My bass is fantastic. So much so, that I sold my Japanese MV5 Metro Express that I paid close to 2 grand for, and opted to make the Verdine my primary gigging bass. I've switched from 5's after using them for 20+ years exclusively to 4's, and Exclusively this bass. The weight is LIGHT, the sound is Sadowsky, and the playability, and build quality are on par with the price. It takes setup well, the pickups are punchy single coils with a great authentic "P Bass" sound, with that pickup solo'd. I am a 90% bridge 10% P bass pickup player. I play mostly close to the bridge unless I need to warm things up and round them out. Then I favor the "P" pickup and can cut the treble and get a great dub bass sound. ( But without that VTC, I couldn't do that) There's no excessive noise issues, just traditional single coil sound.

Cosmetically the bass is fine as well. Good quality paint, smooth sanded neck. Easy player. Can gig for hours and hours easily. Ironically I A/B'd it against a RSD MV5 for 1 gig, and after a few tunes, I quickly put the fiver back in the bag.

I think the RSD Line would benefit greatly from either a mod to the treble side of the circuit to allow treble cut, or to include the VTC on EVERY bass. Otherwise, you too may find the inability to roll back the highs will disqualify it as an all around bass for some types of music. But that's my opinion. I'm sure there are folks on this forum that would disagree.

I also added a d-tuner, and better string tree to the headstock. But... what, I think many of us hope to see is the actual "Sadowsky" calligraphy logo on the headstock. Until then I still get alot of "what bass is that?"

Also, if you're in the US, I found a CONUS one very hard to find. There's one for sale in the classifieds right now for $725 with free ship east of the Mississippi (not mine), and 1 in VA on reverb. Thats it. I had to get mine from Thomann out of Germany, ( thru Reverb) and it was a somewhat difficult, and more costly. But it got here, and its a winner now with the mods.

Hope this helped.
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Thx for sharing your experiences. There are plenty of hardly used RSDs for sale at European sites. I've bought my Sadowsky PU and preamp from an Italien seller who upgraded his RSD basses with something else like MM or humbucker thing, but later he posted the modded basses also, maybe couldn't get the sound he wanted..
 

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