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[Sadowsky]

No measurement for neck relief?

My initial measurement is no relief. Add more if needed.

 

[Sadowsky]

May I ask you (or Roger) if there is any plan to make available in the future these pickups (Super P and J) for Sadowsky Masterbuilt basses?

We are keeping the Super J and Super P as proprietary to the NYC Custom shop.

 

[haggardPHUNK]

Anyone have any opinions on the Verdine White metro express?

I’m a big fan of his playing and a NYC is way out of reach.

any downsides to the Chinese version?

 

[nemo]

Just posted it: Roger Setup Instructions - Sadowsky Guitars

I am a bit confused about the pickup height settings listed there:
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Pickup height
Hold string down at last fret
Measure from bottom of string to top of pole piece

NYC Custom Built and Satin 5 strings:
G string:
3/32” (2.38mm)
E or B strings
4/32” (3.17mm)

MetroLine/MetroExpress/Satin 4 strings
2/32” (1.59mm)
3/32” (2.38mm)
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When I put HC JJ pickups (taken from MIJ Metro) to my NYC 5, should I follow the specs for Metros (2/32-3/32)?
And when I put back the original Duncan SCs there, should I follow the NYC specs (3/32-4/32)?

This is what I have been doing in my swapping and experimenting.
Does it mean the 2/32-3/32 basically applies to HCs and 3/32-4/32 applies to SCs?

 

[CH Design]

My initial measurement is no relief. Add more if needed.

Thanks Roger.

 

[Sadowsky]

I am a bit confused about the pickup height settings listed there:
----------------------------
Pickup height
Hold string down at last fret
Measure from bottom of string to top of pole piece

NYC Custom Built and Satin 5 strings:
G string:
3/32” (2.38mm)
E or B strings
4/32” (3.17mm)

MetroLine/MetroExpress/Satin 4 strings
2/32” (1.59mm)
3/32” (2.38mm)
----------------------------
When I put HC JJ pickups (taken from MIJ Metro) to my NYC 5, should I follow the specs for Metros (2/32-3/32)?
And when I put back the original Duncan SCs there, should I follow the NYC specs (3/32-4/32)?

This is what I have been doing in my swapping and experimenting.
Does it mean the 2/32-3/32 basically applies to HCs and 3/32-4/32 applies to SCs?

The Dimarzio HC pickups I used in early NYCs and all MetroLine and MetroExpress basses have lower magnetic pull and can be closer to the strings. The NYC Satin Series 5 string pickups as well as NYC basses over the last 10+ years have full strength magnets (single coil and hc) and should be a bit farther away from the strings.

 

[nemo]

The Dimarzio HC pickups I used in early NYCs and all MetroLine and MetroExpress basses have lower magnetic pull and can be closer to the strings. The NYC Satin Series 5 string pickups as well as NYC basses over the last 10+ years have full strength magnets (single coil and hc) and should be a bit farther away from the strings.

Thank you, it is clear now!

 

[deepestend]

The Dimarzio HC pickups I used in early NYCs and all MetroLine and MetroExpress basses have lower magnetic pull and can be closer to the strings. The NYC Satin Series 5 string pickups as well as NYC basses over the last 10+ years have full strength magnets (single coil and hc) and should be a bit farther away from the strings.

Good clarification to come out of this discussion... just added to the page. Thanks all!

 

[Vic]

The Dimarzio HC pickups I used in early NYCs and all MetroLine and MetroExpress basses have lower magnetic pull and can be closer to the strings. The NYC Satin Series 5 string pickups as well as NYC basses over the last 10+ years have full strength magnets (single coil and hc) and should be a bit farther away from the strings.

This is EXCELLENT information! Could it be added to the page/document?

 

[JoshS]

Just posted it: Roger Setup Instructions - Sadowsky Guitars

Been thinking about this:

Why you need to adjust the truss rod 1-2 times a year: “The neck moves as a function, primarily, of humidity changes. It’s less about temperature and more about humidity. In temperate climates, when the heat goes on towards the end of the year, the neck has a tendency to move one way or another. Likewise, when the heat and humidity of the summer occurs, your neck may move. So, it’s totally normal to adjust your neck at least twice a year as a result of seasonal changes.”

Is it also normal not to need it? I have crazy humidity / temp swings. Two of my (non-Sadowsky) necks, I'm adjusting constantly. One that is completely paint sealed I've never touched. My Sadowsky's are new to me, one brand new from NYC direct this summer. Doesn't need a thing (yet). The other I'm sort of debating.

 

[monkeyland]

Been thinking about this:


Is it also normal not to need it? I have crazy humidity / temp swings. Two of my (non-Sadowsky) necks, I'm adjusting constantly. One that is completely paint sealed I've never touched. My Sadowsky's are new to me, one brand new from NYC direct this summer. Doesn't need a thing (yet). The other I'm sort of debating.

in my experience it just depends on each individual instrument. At the end of the day it’s still wood with all of its variations

 

[Sadowsky]

Been thinking about this:


Is it also normal not to need it? I have crazy humidity / temp swings. Two of my (non-Sadowsky) necks, I'm adjusting constantly. One that is completely paint sealed I've never touched. My Sadowsky's are new to me, one brand new from NYC direct this summer. Doesn't need a thing (yet). The other I'm sort of debating.

Every piece of wood reacts differently to humidity changes. We sit on our neck stock as long as possible from the time we purchase to the time we use it. Same with fingerboards. If your neck does not need seasonal adjustments, we have achieved our goal.

 

[ShawnG]

My initial measurement is no relief. Add more if needed.

Sorry to bother, noob question...
For what reason would you increase relief? To eliminate fret buzz on the upper (1,2) frets? This assumes fret buzz on higher octave (12-20+) are reduced via action adjustments?
Thx!

SPG

 

[Sadowsky]

Sorry to bother, noob question...
For what reason would you increase relief? To eliminate fret buzz on the upper (1,2) frets? This assumes fret buzz on higher octave (12-20+) are reduced via action adjustments?
Thx!

SPG

Typically, if you are getting buzzing in the middle register frets 4-12, and the action is good, you might benefit from more relief.

 

[JoshS]

Every piece of wood reacts differently to humidity changes. We sit on our neck stock as long as possible from the time we purchase to the time we use it. Same with fingerboards. If your neck does not need seasonal adjustments, we have achieved our goal.

I'll say each year with my "worst" one, there is less adjustment needed. I'm assuming the arid climate here is drying it out. Having gone through a major seasonal change since my Sadowsky was shipped from you guys in NYC makes cautiously hopeful you have achieved your goal!

 

[ShawnG]

Typically, if you are getting buzzing in the middle register frets 4-12, and the action is good, you might benefit from more relief.

Thank you, Roger. The video and .pdf guide are great!

 

[kobass]

We sit on our neck stock as long as possible from the time we purchase to the time we use it. Same with fingerboards.

Well that doesn't sound too comfortable!

 

[G-MonRV5]

Every piece of wood reacts differently to humidity changes. We sit on our neck stock as long as possible from the time we purchase to the time we use it. Same with fingerboards. If your neck does not need seasonal adjustments, we have achieved our goal.

Can confirm. My Sadowsky necks hardly ever need a truss rod adjustment - even with seasonal changes!

Great discussion, by the way. Thanks, @Sadowsky, as always for your participation in the forum!

 

[Vic]

Can confirm. My Sadowsky necks hardly ever need a truss rod adjustment - even with seasonal changes!

same here

 

[Holdsg]

same here, but its Sunny and 75 all the time all de year (that's what the Chamber of Commerce says)