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Thanks everyone!
I'm glad I took everyone's advice!

The band accepted both of us. They told me they wanted to be unique, in having 2 basses. I'm still kind of confused on how it's supposed to work though.

zagralin_arf, that's actually pretty funny! But I probably wouldn't do that to him.

stylonpilson, I would totally say that, he'd just say "F*ck you!". I would beat the shnaz out of him if he punched me :smug:
 
Thanks everyone!
I'm glad I took everyone's advice!

The band accepted both of us. They told me they wanted to be unique, in having 2 basses. I'm still kind of confused on how it's supposed to work though.

zagralin_arf, that's actually pretty funny! But I probably wouldn't do that to him.

stylonpilson, I would totally say that, he'd just say "F*ck you!". I would beat the shnaz out of him if he punched me :smug:

Congrats on getting it! Looks to me that you got the songs for playing what you had to on the songs at the audition (definitely a plus :)), were the other guy got "defaulted" to the others.

Still, this two bassist thing... See if you guys can work out two basses for each song. I mean, no one wants to be sitting on the side and switching left and right at a gig...

Also, see if you can get a second band going in the mean time. A professional situation wouldn't care how many bands you're in as long as you make the allocated time for each.

Rock on and congrats! :hyper:
 
about the quality of the bass... did you ever hear of a "Lyon" by washburn? that was my first bass... and i got the gig anyway.

when i was in highschool, i played drums in jazz band. my school had two jazz bands (one consisting of more proficient players, the other with people playing their 2nd instrument and/or not as advanced as the people in the first) and 4 drummers audition. i got 2nd chair, and a friend of mine got 3rd. i was placed in the top band, he was pl,aced below me. this kid had a very big mouth and had no problem telling anyone how much better he was than me. i'm not going to lie, he was much better than i was. but they way i got a chair up on him was i just went in, played a solid swing groove, locked with the bass, and did nothing flashy. he was much better than i, and knew it, so he went in and played basically a drum solo under the bass.

all fine and dandy. fast forward half the year. if you were in the lower band, you could challenge the person in front of you to move up, well, he being in third, and i being in second, he challenged me. same deal. i went in, played a very simple section. all swing, no backbeat on the snare, ride pattern, hats on 2 and 4. and yet again, he went in, heavy backbeat on two and four on the snare, blastin the kick drum, smashing everything in site. he was actually very good. could he play what was required? yes... but did he? nope. he was his own worst enemy and literally made himself lose by thinking the idea of an audition is to show off. it's not. it's to play what's required and be solid. rock solid.

my advice? do like i did, let that guy hurt himself patting his own back. quit hanging out with him as much. go to auditions, do what's required. learn as much as possible. bass isn't guitar, no one cares if you play 16th notes or not. if you lock in with the drummer, provide a good rythm for the guitars to play to, and know the songs inside and out, it dosn't matter how good you are, you'll get the gig.
 
Hey, I remember getting down on myself about other players who were full of themselves, some awful players... and some who were actually pretty good (that hurt the most!)...

The point is that there is ALWAYS going to be idiots who spout off to anyone within range about how good/fast/tasteful/badass they are.

Be yourself and do your best, don't get caught up in that whirlpool of wankery, practice and open your ears as much as you can... in my experience, the guy who says he is great, never is.
 
You know, the two bass thing may be odd...but think of what you can learn by using both at the same time. Learn how to be melodic while the other hold down the bottom.
I mean, if you listen to most smooth Jazz bass soloists, there's often times someone else holding the bottom while solo-artist is doing his thing (I realize you aren't doing jazz). But yeah, quite a few alternative and rock bands been around with two bassists, like Ned's Atomic already mentioned, and I think another was Molotov.
 
I saw a local band open for Pygmy Love Circus, it was a pretty monster band. It was like two nuclear powered vans full of metal heads collided head on at 200 miles an hour and then this band was what came crawling out of the mangled burning wreckage. It had a drummer, a percussionist, two bassists and like 3 guitarists (although I think one of them was turned way down, I think he was just there to get drunk and do coke and be really entertaining). It was just a massive wall of sound. They weren't the greatest band I'd ever seen (despite my description) but damn, they did the sound they were going for pretty well. So you can make the two basses work, just get ready to have a pretty heavy sound. Although it would be cool to have one bass using a totally clean tone and another using lots of effects. That could work pretty well actually.
 
Tell him to pick up the guitar, that's what he sounds like he really wants to do.

As both a bassist and a guitarist, I think you could safely say he'd have no change at guitar playing with only two fingers on his left hand unless he's the next Django. Tell him to learn to use index, pinkie and everything between, then maybe consider playing in a band.

As for your situation, I haven't read the last two pages so I've no idea if you got the spot already or what's going on. If you did, congrats. If you don't know yet, or you didn't, it's cool, man.

First things first, you have to remember to be the **** to you before you can expect anybody else to believe it. That doesn't mean being cocky, as nobody likes somebody who's cocky, but you have to appreciate what you can do before anybody else will appreciate it.

EDIT: Just read up and saw you both got the spot. Good stuff man, congrats.
 
My advice: If it's a good band, you win the audition by listening, being able to pick up the band's groove, making the other players sound good, being positive and supportive about what the other players are doing. Technique is only part of the equation, and it is not just speed, but also command of the groove and a hundred other things.

If the band has already made its choice, there's nothing you can do but be positive about it and thank the band afterwards. Auditioning is good experience. And the other bassist might end up flaming out of the band, in which case you might get the call anyway.

fdeck - words to live by.