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Consumer Consumption

#9
Interesting.

I just don't see why it's bad to burn waste and get energy out of it. There's these things called filters that she didn't mention... Is she actually saying it's better to just dump all the waste in a hole in the ground?
 
#12
I say:
- Burn what can be burned safely (not everything contains hazardous chemicals. A lot of the chemicals used in factories are not ingredients in the products but needed in the manufacturing process)
- Recycle what can be recycled reasonably easy (if it is more energy consuming to recycle a product than to produce a new one, recycling might not be the best option. Better to change the product if possible).
- Dig down the rest. The bottom of the refuse dump should be covered with thick plastic sheets or something similar so that the ground water doesn't get contaminated. I think this is the standard preparation at least here...
 
#14
santucci218 said:
the pie chart...
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Oh, you mean that one where it shows that Americans use 30% of the world's resources?

The thing that interested me is how 51 of the US biggest corporations have a bigger economy than 49 of the countries with the biggest economies. Money is power. Just like there is a seperation of Church and State, there should be a seperation of Corporation and State.

My .02
 
#15
::::BASSIST:::: said:
Just like there is a seperation of Church and State, there should be a seperation of Corporation and State.

My .02
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Well said.. the fact that the video points out that all the "obsolescence" and useless junk selling is intentional should be cause for pause for all of us.. I don't go to any WalMart, ever as I don't respect their business practices (putting ma & pa american businesses out of business and hiring them at minimum wage, not to mention slave wages of the people that actually make this junk).. still working on decreasing my consumption levels though.. I've already got too much stuff. It's a start..
 
#18
morf said:
What the heck is wrong with the guys in this thread? Your government is refunding you 600 bucks so you can keep on consuming, aren't you going to follow their lead?
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This is the real problem in a nutshell. We live in a consumer driven economy. A number I've heard quoted on the news is consumer purchases account for about 3/4 of economic activity in the US. The US gov't needs people to keep buying at an increasing rate in order to keep the economy afloat.

This isn't sustainable. This fact is being proved by the fact people are continuing to go into deeper debt. Of course we have our fabulous gov't's example of Invalid Link Removed to the tune of 9+ TRILLION dollars. If they don't need to control debt spending then why should we? Heck, when we die they can try to take it from our estate, right? Why leave a legacy for our children when we could be driving brand new pimped out Subaru Legacy 4 door sedans with the GPS unit, iPod hookup and hands-free Blue Tooth connector for my superPhone!
 
#19
WillPlay4Food said:
This is the real problem in a nutshell. We live in a consumer driven economy. A number I've heard quoted on the news is consumer purchases account for about 3/4 of economic activity in the US. The US gov't needs people to keep buying at an increasing rate in order to keep the economy afloat.

This isn't sustainable. This fact is being proved by the fact people are continuing to go into deeper debt. Of course we have our fabulous gov't's example of Invalid Link Removed to the tune of 9+ TRILLION dollars. If they don't need to control debt spending then why should we? Heck, when we die they can try to take it from our estate, right? Why leave a legacy for our children when we could be driving brand new pimped out Subaru Legacy 4 door sedans with the GPS unit, iPod hookup and hands-free Blue Tooth connector for my superPhone!
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Wow. I have renewed faith in America's economy if more people think like you :) I like this thread.
 

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