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Cross-Over (Crossover or Splitter) pedals

#321
karter2000 said:
I built one as well but stupidly sold it.

I wonder if he would be okay with either selling or releasing the gerber files so that people could make their own PCBs.
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I have a feeling he might- in my communications with him he seemed super cool. I swear they had a re-up on kits for a little bit at Musikding a little while back (years after he stopped making them), so he may already have an arrangement with them (currently out of stock again): Schalltechnik_04
 
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#323
Zbysek said:
Which frequency do you usually set your crossover at?

For my purposes, 250-300Hz seems to be ideal …
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Same. My crossover point usually ends up around 250~300 as well.
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I realize this is not a pedal.
 
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I must admit I am not a big fan of crossover blends, and seem to get better results, according to my personal taste, by simply using the EQ section of my drive pedals in conjucntion with the simple tone control on my EHX Tri Parallel Mixer.

I simply don't like the tone you get from blending pure clean high cut low end, and pure effected low cut top end effected sound.

To me it sounds artificial and fizzy.

I am not saying it is wrong to utilize crossover to blend effects with dry signal, just that I personally don't like the resulting effect/tone.

What I found is however that some pedals sits perfectly mix with full range dry signal, without it sounding muddy, or like that clean or distorted sound respectively sounds seperated, as in seemingly sitting over or under each other in the mix, while other pedals require more or less EQ'ing, usually fairly subtle EQ changes actually, some a slight low cut, others a slight mid hump, and others again a slight mid scoop, to sit perfectly in the mix.

Though It probably does help that my basic dry sound is really not all that clean, but quite a bit overdriven, and that the preamp that provides this overdrive sits after my other dry blended effects, helping both the dry signal and effected sound to blend in better with each other.
 
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#326
Zbysek said:
One of the reasons why I use crossover(s) is that it allows me to change tone (by engaging effects in the high pass loop) without affecting low end.

Sending consistent low end to FOH is my priority.
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Yeah, low end is not really a huge concideration for me.

As I mainly play a tenor bass tuned bass (G#1 standard tuning to be exact), and that it is the main instrument in the solo project of mine I use this in, that is the main melodic and driving instument, with, beside drums, and occationally vocals, a few other instruments more so accompaning it or being pure extra flavor.

If I need more bass, as in low end, in the mix I will typically use something like an organ for that, or eventual overdub my tenor bass with a take where the 1 octave down effect is enganed on my Boss XS-1 Poly Shifter pedal (which normally will have the 1 octave up engaged, to give an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string, octave course, bass).

Something like this ([tenor Bass + 1 octave up] + [tenor bass + 1 octave down], also note that this is just a note for a riff I created, and it is really messily recorded and played):


This is by the way my basic "clean" tone, which as you can hear isn't actually very clean.
 
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Ritter667 said:
Yeah, low end is not really a huge concideration for me.

As I mainly play a tenor bass tuned bass (G#1 standard tuning to be exact), and that it is the main instrument in the solo project of mine I use this in, that is the main melodic and driving instument, with, beside drums, and occationally vocals, a few other instruments more so accompaning it or being pure extra flavor.

If I need more bass, as in low end, in the mix I will typically use something like an organ for that, or eventual overdub my tenor bass with a take where the 1 octave down effect is enganed on my Boss XS-1 Poly Shifter pedal (which normally will have the 1 octave up engaged, to give an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string, octave course, bass).

Something like this ([tenor Bass + 1 octave up] + [tenor bass + 1 octave down], also note that this is just a note for a riff I created, and it is really messily recorded and played):
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This is by the way my basic "clean" tone, which as you can hear isn't actually very clean.
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Crossover FX Loops definitely seem ideal for a more modern tone with big clean lows- for most vintage tones a roll-off of lows and some saturation in the low-mids is part of the vibe IMO. That said, there is no reason a crossover looper needs to affect the sound of the drive at all- it totally depends on where the filter is placed in relation to the drive. If you place the filter after the drive then you are just rolling off lows of a full-signal drive whereas if you place the filter before the drive then you will actually affect the character of the clipping. Usually cutting lows into a drive circuit makes it tighter and less harsh, but it depends on the pedals you are using and the sounds you are going for.
 
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#329
Zbysek said:
In the latest reiteration of my pedalboard, I replaced the Nobels ODR and the Volbox with Tech 21 English Muffy
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I just want to point out that Tech 21 Character plus series is such a great value for any bassist using crossed-over setup, IMO.

With the English Muffy in my HP loop, I get three levels of dirt in one pedal....without the need to worry about polarity/phase issues which would otherwise be inevitable if I used three separate dirt pedals instead.

And they can be had for so cheap. Thomann in Europe currently sells Fuzzy Brit for EUR 149...

Before getting the English Muffy, I had been considering getting a two channels overdrive for my HP loop. I had my eyes on Walrus 385MKII...but it was little too expensive so I hesitated. When I found out about the Tech 21 Character plus series, it was a no brainer.

Compared to Walrus, I've got:
  • three channels (instead of two)
  • three-band EQ (instead of two-band)
  • Character control for each overdrive channel
  • cab sim, and
  • XLR output.
Plus Tech 21 was half the price of the Walrus. What's not to like? :-)
 
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Zbysek said:
I just want to point out that Tech 21 Character plus series is such a great value for any bassist using crossed-over setup, IMO.

With the English Muffy in my HP loop, I get three levels of dirt in one pedal....without the need to worry about polarity/phase issues which would otherwise be inevitable if I used three separate dirt pedals instead.

And they can be had for so cheap. Thomann in Europe currently sells Fuzzy Brit for EUR 149...

Before getting the English Muffy, I had been considering getting a two channels overdrive for my HP loop. I had my eyes on Walrus 385MKII...but it was little too expensive so I hesitated. When I found out about the Tech 21 Character plus series, it was a no brainer.

Compared to Walrus, I've got:
  • three channels (instead of two)
  • three-band EQ (instead of two-band)
  • Character control for each overdrive channel
  • cab sim, and
  • XLR output.
Plus Tech 21 was half the price of the Walrus. What's not to like? :-)
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Haven't heard of these. I'll be looking into them!
 
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