I would highly recommend calling Mike Lull's shop and talk with Spencer Lull about your ideas. He's a really great guy to talk to, and they make such an amazing P bass.
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I'm looking for some opinions on going the custom P bass route. I know there are a lot of threads on this topic, but I'd like to get some feedback from people who've gone down that road and have thought both about a parts bass vs a custom luthier build.
Here are the details on what I would want:
- Passive electronics, Lollar split P
- Maple neck with rosewood FB, 1"5/8th nut, chunky profile
- Alder body, maybe with a cool top and finish? I'm partial to a quilted maple top with Tiger Eye dye finish....
I've been spending too much time on the Warmoth bass configurator I must've built 3 dozen and added about half to my cart before talking myself out of it.
My budget is fairly large. I'll go up to $5000 for the right stuff, but it has to be worth it. I guess what I'm asking is - if I don't care about looks, and I have no problem putting a bass together from parts - is it still worth talking to Fender CS, Sadowsky, etc or am I better off spending half or even less on a built-to-spec Warmoth? Other builders worth considering?
My goal is really to have a great P bass with just a few details how I want them (chunky neck, 1"5/8th nut, rosewood FB are all must haves).
This is good to know. There go my assumptions based on others comments. Thanks!The standard contour for a Warmoth neck is .872" at the first fret (.972" at the 12th) which is also pretty standard for Allparts necks. By comparison, Fender's modern C is .82", Warmoth's slim taper is .79", an Ibanez SR is closer to .75"
The standard Warmoth contour is actually much more chunky than a typical Fender Modern C. I'm a Warmoth fan, but their standard contour is just too fat for me (and I own Spectors that have pretty thick back contours). My two Warmoth necks have the slim taper and they feel more like the Fender modern C. I doubt anyone looking for a chunky neck would complain about a Warmoth standard contour.
For any P-style bass, I personally would not go custom route even if I have the budget. It is one of the simplest (yet one of the best) electric bass designs ever; and even with moderate skills at best, you can put one together yourself from parts (and it is a lot of fun, believe me).
I have had a Fender Custom Shop '59 which was a great bass, but my two home-made/assembled P basses with woods from Warmoth and/or Hosco as well as Lollar and Arcane pickups are by far the best P's I have ever played (including vintage stuff from 60s), and they are both significantly better than my CS. If you cannot find a chunky neck to your liking from Warmoth, USACG, etc., I would try whatever Fender or Squier you can find at your local music store and I would simply upgrade the electronics and spend the rest of the money for a much more boutique bass or amp project.
Just recently, one of my friends bought a Squier P and I cannot tell how good the bass is even before upgrades.
Just IME and IMHO... Best,
Alper
A g&l lb100 custom shop would be the way to go. You just might have to wait 7-9 months to get it
Always been a rosewood guy never liked maple then picked up a CV 70's P bass. Maple neck and almost as chunky a 70's baseball bat profile....feels amazing, sounds very good. Im a firm beleiver the thicker the neck the better the tone.
With the custom shop, you can order whatever you want. but the Fullerton Deluxe LB100 I have is a 1 5/8" neck, and it has thicker/broader shoulders than the modern C fender necks I have played. It's hard to describe, but the G&L feels thicker in the shoulder part of the neck. Front to back depth is probably the same though.I thought G&Ls tended to have a slimmer neck compared to Fenders, am I getting that wrong?
With the custom shop, you can order whatever you want. but the Fullerton Deluxe LB100 I have is a 1 5/8" neck, and it has thicker/broader shoulders than the modern C fender necks I have played. It's hard to describe, but the G&L feels thicker in the shoulder part of the neck. Front to back depth is probably the same though.
A custom build is really attractive when you can't find what you want out there, but go in with eyes open.
I commissioned a custom build over 2 years ago for what was supposed to be a five month build, and I'm still empty handed. Worse yet, my repeated requests for an ETA have gone mostly unanswered. I still haven't learned my lesson though and have another custom build in the works right now with a different builder.
I had a replacement Warmoth neck once that sounded noticeably worse than the neck it replaced, but I'm not sure if that says something about Warmoth or just my rotten luck when shopping.
Good to know, that might be an option then, I think I can find G&Ls locally to test out I'll give one a try.
Fodera can easily build you a $5000 P bass hahaha. They can do literally anything you ask for. My modulus has a P pickup, the graphite neck and P combo is an absolutely glorious sound. I fall in love with it everyday. However, they have a little narrower neck than you're talking about and would probably take 2 years to build. But it could be as light as 6-7 pounds if you go chambered RevoLite.
I would agree, best of luck to you.I considered the higher end builders at first, but going Fodera for a P bass seemed kind of overkill. While I'm not hurting financially, if I can get similar quality (feel and tone I'm looking for) and spend less, that's for the best.
I've ordered a custom bass from Maruszczyk and a parts bass Warmoth at around the same time. Interestingly it took longer for the parts bass to arrive. The custom bass arrived in about 8 weeks, and it took an extra month for the Warmoth to be delivered.Thanks, that's also part of the attraction with Warmoth, fairly quick turnaround time compared to most other out there. I've followed some of the threads about luthier horror stories (the Zon thread for example), so I'm going into this with somewhat of an idea about who not to go with.
I've ordered a custom bass from Maruszczyk and a parts bass Warmoth at around the same time. Interestingly it took longer for the parts bass to arrive. The custom bass arrived in about 8 weeks, and it took an extra month for the Warmoth to be delivered.