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Custom P bass

I tend to feel like 75% of the "feel" of a bass is in the neck profile and dimensions, 20% is in balance, and 5% is in the shape of the body. You might feel differently, but that shapes my advice.

I understand that Musikraft is the thickest prefab parts neck.

But USA Custom Guitars' old equipment is now owned by MJT. I haven't worked with MJT, but I ordered a custom USACG neck for build several years ago with very specific dimensions--I was trying to copy a G&L neck I had: 1.5" nut width, .82-.92 depth, 12" radius, 21 medium frets. It came out great. I chose roasted maple and finished it myself with tru-oil and it still feels and looks amazing. Even smells good.

I had the body custom made by a local luthier -- I wanted a slightly longer upper horn so the bass would sit on me a little differently and offer better upper fret access with a slightly different cutaway. Piano black finish with tort/white binding. It worked out great and is my #1 4-string. I can't imagine ever not having it or using it. Lots of compliments from sound engineers as well.

I also built an instrument from Warmoth parts for the body and neck, and thought it was high quality. But ultimately I sold it off at a big loss because sometimes my own ideas don't work the way I think they will.

Finally, I own a Lull 5-string J that I modded with a P-pickup. Sounds amazing, wonderful to play, works as B-E or E-C, 5/5 would recommend. I played a 4-string P in the store once and almost bought it on the spot except I didn't need another 4-string.

So, if I were doing the 4-string P thing again:

If I felt like hiring a high end luthier, I would go to Lull and I wouldn't think twice about it. Mike actually played a P and the people in his shop "get it." Service is also really good.

If I wanted to really spec it out myself, I'd order the exact neck dimensions I wanted from MJT, and then buy a Warmoth body (personally I'd wait for the right weight/wood combo to pop up rather than pre-ordering), get the parts I want and have a local luthier assemble and set up.

I don't know who does and does not do rosewood at this point.

Other high end basses P-style basses I've tried: Maruczyzyk and Lakland are great sounding but had thin necks (front to back) for my personal taste. Fodera is a unique instrument with a P-shaped pickup but sounded and felt nothing like a P-bass. I played an old Modulus Bassstar for awhile and those are great but also their own thing.

Production instruments: G&L LB-100 is the one I like most. I also really liked the Fender American Standards and Deluxes from a few years back and have played some Mexican Fenders that were great. If I were in the market and stumbled across one I liked, I would buy it and then mod the electronics and hardware if I felt it necessary.

I probably won't keep up with this thread but quote me or PM me if you have questions. Good luck!
 
I tend to feel like 75% of the "feel" of a bass is in the neck profile and dimensions, 20% is in balance, and 5% is in the shape of the body. You might feel differently, but that shapes my advice.

I understand that Musikraft is the thickest prefab parts neck.

But USA Custom Guitars' old equipment is now owned by MJT. I haven't worked with MJT, but I ordered a custom USACG neck for build several years ago with very specific dimensions--I was trying to copy a G&L neck I had: 1.5" nut width, .82-.92 depth, 12" radius, 21 medium frets. It came out great. I chose roasted maple and finished it myself with tru-oil and it still feels and looks amazing. Even smells good.

I had the body custom made by a local luthier -- I wanted a slightly longer upper horn so the bass would sit on me a little differently and offer better upper fret access with a slightly different cutaway. Piano black finish with tort/white binding. It worked out great and is my #1 4-string. I can't imagine ever not having it or using it. Lots of compliments from sound engineers as well.

I also built an instrument from Warmoth parts for the body and neck, and thought it was high quality. But ultimately I sold it off at a big loss because sometimes my own ideas don't work the way I think they will.

Finally, I own a Lull 5-string J that I modded with a P-pickup. Sounds amazing, wonderful to play, works as B-E or E-C, 5/5 would recommend. I played a 4-string P in the store once and almost bought it on the spot except I didn't need another 4-string.

So, if I were doing the 4-string P thing again:

If I felt like hiring a high end luthier, I would go to Lull and I wouldn't think twice about it. Mike actually played a P and the people in his shop "get it." Service is also really good.

If I wanted to really spec it out myself, I'd order the exact neck dimensions I wanted from MJT, and then buy a Warmoth body (personally I'd wait for the right weight/wood combo to pop up rather than pre-ordering), get the parts I want and have a local luthier assemble and set up.

I don't know who does and does not do rosewood at this point.

Other high end basses P-style basses I've tried: Maruczyzyk and Lakland are great sounding but had thin necks (front to back) for my personal taste. Fodera is a unique instrument with a P-shaped pickup but sounded and felt nothing like a P-bass. I played an old Modulus Bassstar for awhile and those are great but also their own thing.

Production instruments: G&L LB-100 is the one I like most. I also really liked the Fender American Standards and Deluxes from a few years back and have played some Mexican Fenders that were great. If I were in the market and stumbled across one I liked, I would buy it and then mod the electronics and hardware if I felt it necessary.

I probably won't keep up with this thread but quote me or PM me if you have questions. Good luck!

Thanks for your input, you seem to be going against the trend (I see more people buying MJT bodies / Warmoth necks than the opposite), but I'm also considering MJT/USACG. I've had an MJT body in the past that was really well finished and lightweight.
 
@truand85 , several months ago I decided to go all-out for my "destination P." And after considering a vintage hunt, and considering Fender Custom Shop, I went the boutique route. I'm a couple months out from holding my custom Lakland, but so far I have been delighted by the company and the process.

Why Lakland for me? Well, I wrote an inquiry to the regular sales email and was answered by the president of the company. Had a phone call and a couple of emails, and we were off and running. What you should know is that if you ante for the full USA Series, you really get a full-custom boutique P and you can dream of things not offered as options on the website.

I've had a couple of harebrained ideas and requests, and at every turn their first instinct was to say "yes, we can do that." As in: I sent them the pickups and strings I wanted for it. As in: would you please etch the word funk in the heel of the neck and fill it in with blue ballpoint ink? :thumbsup: As in: I dreamed up a finish that they had never offered, and they said "yeah why not, let's try it!"

Custom neck specs?
 
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The Maruszczyk is a fantastic instrument, top notch boutique quality for less than $2000, and many say the same thing about theirs in this thread:

The Official MARUSZCZYK CLUB!

Regarding the Warmoth parts bass, I have yet to put it together although the body has been treated with a water based finishing oil.

That's my experience with Maruszczyk as well :thumbsup:
 
The Maruszczyk is a fantastic instrument, top notch boutique quality for less than $2000, and many say the same thing about theirs in this thread:

The Official MARUSZCZYK CLUB!

Regarding the Warmoth parts bass, I have yet to put it together although the body has been treated with a water based finishing oil.

Sounds like an option worth considering at that price. I'll email them too, thanks all!
 
Dude,

Check out the Schecter Custom Shop: Shopping . They make one off, hand made, high end Fender style basses. They made this for me -

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I've had no luck or response back from Nash, Olinto, Valenti...

Gonna try emailing Lakland and Maruszczyk, Schecter is less to my liking. If those don't work out, I'm going the Warmoth route.
You can use the configurator to put together a bass that you like, save your configuration, and then send the link to Adrian to specify the extras you would like.
 
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You can use the configurator to put together a bass that you like, save your configuration, and then send the link to Adrian to specify the extras you would like.

Yeah I might do that, what I want is not fancy:

  • Alder body, lake placid blue nitro/satin (poly only for Maruszczyk?)
  • Roasted maple neck with rosewood FB (no rosewood for Maruszczyk or Roscoe)
  • 1 5/8th nut (no for Lull) with a chunky profile
  • Optional: matching headstock in LPB
  • Optional: nice custom body top, and forego the LPB finish
Everything else would be standard 4 string P bass.
 
Yeah I might do that, what I want is not fancy:

  • Alder body, lake placid blue nitro/satin (poly only for Maruszczyk?)
  • Roasted maple neck with rosewood FB (no rosewood for Maruszczyk or Roscoe)
  • 1 5/8th nut (no for Lull) with a chunky profile
  • Optional: matching headstock in LPB
  • Optional: nice custom body top, and forego the LPB finish
Everything else would be standard 4 string P bass.
It seems reasonable. Let us know what his response is after you've sent your requests.:)
 
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I've had no luck or response back from Nash, Olinto, Valenti...

Gonna try emailing Lakland and Maruszczyk, Schecter is less to my liking. If those don't work out, I'm going the Warmoth route.
@truand85 I don't see any emails fro you. I also looked in my junk folder just in case. Nothing there. Email me at [email protected], call me at 347-850-0674 or send me a message thru TalkBass.
 
So I've done a custom build AND a parts assembly... And I'm VERY pleased with both.

Like so many of us, I've had Fender AVRI P-Basses over the years... American Standards as well... and after so many years playing so many Fender basses, neither of my "final" P-Basses are actually Fender-built. Besides, I didn't want to have the same basses EVERYONE ELSE had, you know?

The first is my SLAB66; built by Gareth Ishmael in the U.K. He went all in on the research... it was the man's passion (right down to the custom-built pups and the "Fullerton bump" on the horn), and so I trusted him as a builder... the glowing reviews he received also helped me decide to go for it... And I love it... Ash body, and a MusiKraft neck that is satin finished and the best damn neck I've ever played...
Oh, and it's a rubbed-oil finish...
For a hot minute I considered refinishing it with a color, but quickly came to my senses.
$2k, shipped:
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The second bass was added more recently... The pups are Lollars with a 920D Custom PB Pre-Wired Wiring Harness, the neck is a Nash, and the body is a nitro finished, MIM Nate Mendell... All other hardware is Fender/Fender licenced... Turned out a little heavier than I wanted (about 11lbs), but it sounds wonderful -- not to mention it has a look I've always wanted but could never quite get from Fender (including the custom pickguard with a wide bevel so the white really pops)!
My local Luther put it together... Mr. Mike Drasin of East Bay Guitar Repair... He did a wonderful job. The parts came together perfectly... It looks vintage, sounds amazing, and I'm not scared to take/play it anywhere... All for less than $1,300 (because I include the case price in the build -- a MONO Vertigo Bass Guitar Case; the only soft case I trust):
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I think that for $2,500.00 TOPS you can build the P-Bass of your dreams; with a plush hardcase AND top-of-the-line gig bag to boot!!!

I look forward to following your journey, brother!

Best of luck!

~GBass75
 
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Yeah I might do that, what I want is not fancy:

  • Alder body, lake placid blue nitro/satin (poly only for Maruszczyk?)
  • Roasted maple neck with rosewood FB (no rosewood for Maruszczyk or Roscoe)
  • 1 5/8th nut (no for Lull) with a chunky profile
  • Optional: matching headstock in LPB
  • Optional: nice custom body top, and forego the LPB finish

Lakland will have all that covered ('cept nitro.) Roasted neck, for example, isn't listed as an option on the website. You just ask for it, and they say "sure!"
 
After weighing my options I've put a down payment on a Nash PB63. The default options come closest to what I'm looking for, with the neck dimensions with 1 5/8th nut and .88" at the first fret, alder body, rosewood on maple neck, nitro finish, Lollar pickup, it checks a lot of boxes.

Lake Placid Blue with matching headstock and "light" aging. Wait time is about 8 months, but it was cheap enough that I might end up building a Warmoth P anyway!