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Cutting Out 7000 Calories a Week?

#21
John Deacon said:
I know that, thats why I said I just need to eat less of it. I eat it once a week, but its like half a carton, so I have cut that down a ton.

I am 6'1" and around 355. Bad I know. Daily calorie intake is around...1500 a day on average.
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Honey, that's not just 'bad', that's morbidly obese.
Your BMI is 47! Dude, you don't just need to lose some weight, you need to lose a lot of weight and fast.
Stop asking TB for help, go see a professional dietistian/nutritionist and get a gym membership (they can help you plan an exercise routine)
 
#23
kydnav said:
Honey, that's not just 'bad', that's morbidly obese.
Your BMI is 47! Dude, you don't just need to lose some weight, you need to lose a lot of weight and fast.
Stop asking TB for help, go see a professional dietistian/nutritionist and get a gym membership (they can help you plan an exercise routine)
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I swear to god, if I hear another person blabbler about the BMI I'm going to shoot myself in the eyeball.

BMI is not, and never has been an accurate way to determine if some one is healthy or not. If I calculate my BMI with my football playing weight, when I ran a 5 minute mile, a 4.45 40 yard dash, could bench press 225 @ 10 reps, squat 405 @ 8 reps, dead lift 515 @ 8 reps and weighed 190 lbs on my 6 foot 1 inch frame, I would have been considered overweight. My buddy is 6'3 and 250, all muscle, his BMI would be 31+, which would make him technically Obese, but I'd dare you say say that to his face. My trainer is 5'11 and 210, his BMI is 29.3, on the border of obesity.

People have larger frames than others and are able to support more weight than others naturally, which is why some people are naturally bigger than others. It's not rocket science to figure out that human beings an amazingly diverse and race and as such there is no universal code or index that we live by that is appropriate to determine our health needs, and how healthy we are. 6'1 and 355 is big, but without looking at him and seeing how that weight is distributed, implying that some one is obese is flat out wrong.

To the OP: I am a member of the Powerhouse Gym in Tampa, and their membership rates are ridiculously cheap, I paid $150 and i have a full 6 month 24/7 membership. They've got people there who craft diets and workout routines to help people do basically everything. I don't know what they have in your town, but if you are looking to lose weight look @ powerhouse. They're a lot cheaper, and in my opinion better than a Gold's (of which I used to be a member).
I'd recommend a circuit type routine to get your heart rate up, start getting your muscles/joints accustomed to working out, and also to help tone down some subcutaneous fat around them.
 
#25
I love cereal too, John.

Do like I did. For breakfast, I have a large bowl of oatmeal, with maple syrup. Not pancake syrup. Real maple syrup. No milk.

Very filling and very healthy.

Stop with the ice cream. It's crap.
 
#27
1500 calories a day is under what I'd need to keep my 140lbs frame alive. I think this mis-evaluation, and the fact that you focus on your cereals only (and assume that diet soda isn't fattening) are signs that you don't want things to change that much.

I am with kydnav here. You have make your new eating and exercising habits from the ground up, with proper counselling. You can make small changes all you want, you seem to be at an age & weight where adjustments aren't really on the right scale.
 
#28
sloasdaylight said:
I swear to god, if I hear another person blabbler about the BMI I'm going to shoot myself in the eyeball.

BMI is not, and never has been an accurate way to determine if some one is healthy or not. If I calculate my BMI with my football playing weight, when I ran a 5 minute mile, a 4.45 40 yard dash, could bench press 225 @ 10 reps, squat 405 @ 8 reps, dead lift 515 @ 8 reps and weighed 190 lbs on my 6 foot 1 inch frame, I would have been considered overweight. My buddy is 6'3 and 250, all muscle, his BMI would be 31+, which would make him technically Obese, but I'd dare you say say that to his face. My trainer is 5'11 and 210, his BMI is 29.3, on the border of obesity.

People have larger frames than others and are able to support more weight than others naturally, which is why some people are naturally bigger than others. It's not rocket science to figure out that human beings an amazingly diverse and race and as such there is no universal code or index that we live by that is appropriate to determine our health needs, and how healthy we are. 6'1 and 355 is big, but without looking at him and seeing how that weight is distributed, implying that some one is obese is flat out wrong.

To the OP: I am a member of the Powerhouse Gym in Tampa, and their membership rates are ridiculously cheap, I paid $150 and i have a full 6 month 24/7 membership. They've got people there who craft diets and workout routines to help people do basically everything. I don't know what they have in your town, but if you are looking to lose weight look @ powerhouse. They're a lot cheaper, and in my opinion better than a Gold's (of which I used to be a member).
I'd recommend a circuit type routine to get your heart rate up, start getting your muscles/joints accustomed to working out, and also to help tone down some subcutaneous fat around them.
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I understand BMI isn't everything, I myself am quite slim and people are often surprised when they find out how much I weigh (because a lot of it is muscle tissue and it weighs more than fat), however, OP doesn't come across as someone whos 355 pounds are mostly muscle mass (also due to the fact he acknowledges his weight is bad and he needs to lose some of it)

Yes, your BMI might be say you're obese even though it's mostly muscle, however, the majority isn't that toned. For the majority that weight is fat. BMI is calculated the way it is to fit the majority of people, just because a minority doesn't fit that mold doesn't make the design bad. They're just exceptions.

If you acknowledge you have a weight issue and there's such an easy way to cut back 7000 calories (on only cereal and ice cream!), your diet is screwed up and it's simply not healthy to continue living like you are right now.
 
#29
you seem to be trying to find shortcuts or easy ways out.

it really comes down to the simplest of equations.

what you eat - what you burn = what youre left with

eat healthier. fat free ice cream is still not healthy, don't lie to yourself and pretend you don't understand why. healthy foods are better than unhealthy foods, and everyone has a general idea of what foods go in which category. drinking water is obvious too. so is exercise.

all that being said, if you can control yourself, you can have junk food in tiny proportions, but its still not good, and if you truly want to lose weight and be healthier, than just man up and do it.

there is no easy way out, but really, once you get started and lose a few, it snowballs, momentum builds, and it becomes easier.
soon you will feel like garbage after you eat too much because your body is not used to eating so much bull**** anymore, and you will feel great after eating healthy and exercising.

dont cheat yourself bro, its a great feeling
 
#30
and to those talking trash about BMI. you are sort of right but also sort of wrong.

BMI calculators are usually wrong, because they dont take muscle into account, they just put your weight, height, age, and sex into an algorithym and that is the number you get.
that being said, there are accurate ways to measure BMI (by a doc) and they are more helpful. a high BMI is bad, but dont let a BMI calculator on the net tell you that, let a doctor do it
 
#31
Hey all, first off thanks for the help.

To be honest, looking back on it, I have NO idea where 1500 came from. I guess its the daily caloric intake when I do not eat cereal. On days I eat cereal, it would be in the 3500 range. I know that it is fat, but I am just naturally bigger built as well. It really does not show on me. When I was around 300 pounds, people thought I was 200. No excuse though, I know.

But none the less, I do realize that it is dangerous how I was living, and obviously I am going to change that. I know what I am going to have to do to lose it, because I have lost weight before, just gained it back, because the changes I made were not changes I could live with.

I am not saying that fat free ice cream is healthy, I am just saying that I am going to eat less of it. And it really is a lot less.

Hmm...what else. I understand that I am obese, and know that I have to change that. But losing the weight fast is not what I am after. I know that if I lose it fast, it will be using means that are not healthy. I AM going to lose it, but in way that is healthy, includes eating a lot better, and exercise.

Looking back on it, it is no wonder why I gained the weight. I can point out everything that I eat that may be bad, so I know what to change.

The exact reason why I was eating so much cereal is this. It is high in iron. I was slightly anemic for a small time, and when I saw how much iron was in the cereal, I of course wanted as much as I could to raise my iron level. I was stupid, and didn't take into account the exact amount of calories I would be intaking, and it bit me back. I didn't know of other good ways to get iron, so I relied on cereal.

I do appreciate all of the concern on this board, and I take a lot of the advice given to me, if it is healthy of course. I need to start drinking more water and really learn how to eat healthy. Even since I have cut out that much cereal, I have noticed a difference. My weight is going down slightly. I know I am going to have to drastically change my lifestyle, and that I can not just make small changes. But, the changes I have made so far are just going to build up to bigger ones. I would say 7000 calories a week is a big change.

I do not eat breakfast. I do not really eat anything unhealthy, but I do eat a lot of it. I can be honest about it. My metabolism is also in the toilet, and has been all my life, even when I was losing weight and working out. It is not a thyroid condition because I have been through tons of tests, and I am okay. I know that eating breakfast is important, but my main concern is that I am going to eat something too fattening and that I can save calories by not eating breakfast, eating a snack (cereal) in the afternoon, and then dinner. I know I need to start just eating small meals about 4 times a day.

To show I am being serious, I went to look at exercise bikes today, but no luck. They are way too expensive new. I am going to Craigslist often, and have found a few that look promising. I am going to lose this weight guys.
 
#32
In general BMI doesn't work if you have an athletic build; but it is a great tool if you are a lazy slob. Try this, cut all sugar from your diet. I do this for the majority of the year (not for the few weeks around Christmas) and it is fantastic. You really avoid a lot of crap that you shouldn't be eating any way. I also have two days a month where I allowed to eat junk food.

If you are that overweight, get a personal trainer and a nutritionist. It is really going to suck for a few weeks to a month, but after that you will be right into routine and you will not miss all the crap that you used to eat. You will have more energy, you will feel better and you will be more mentally alert. It is worth every effort and penny you put into it.

lowsound
 
#33
You mention iron. Iron won't get absorbed by the body if you take calcium with it (ie just about any dairy, especially milk). I learned that back in college, when several of my teammates were anemic and many were on iron supplements.

Skipping breakfast is bad. Yeah, you aren't getting calories, but it's sending bad messages to your body which will make you gain weight. Even if it's just a slice of wheat toast (whole grains > white every time), you're far better off than not eating anything. Easy ways to sneak in "little meals" is fruit. Eat an apple, or some grapes, or your favorite fruit. They're super good for you, low in calories, and easy to eat. You don't have to make it a big thing. Eat a bit of breakfast in the morning, maybe some granola mid-morning, small lunch, mid-afternoon have some fruit, and then dinner. It's not as easy as it sounds, but it's not the hardest thing in the world either. Another substitute may be worth looking into is frozen yogurt over ice cream. Again, way healthier for you, and a fraction of the calories too.

It sounds to me like you're looking at this the right way. You aren't looking for quick shortcuts, you're acknowledging what's wrong and making an effort to change it. Good luck.
 
#34
illidian said:
You mention iron. Iron won't get absorbed by the body if you take calcium with it (ie just about any dairy, especially milk). I learned that back in college, when several of my teammates were anemic and many were on iron supplements.

Skipping breakfast is bad. Yeah, you aren't getting calories, but it's sending bad messages to your body which will make you gain weight. Even if it's just a slice of wheat toast (whole grains > white every time), you're far better off than not eating anything. Easy ways to sneak in "little meals" is fruit. Eat an apple, or some grapes, or your favorite fruit. They're super good for you, low in calories, and easy to eat. You don't have to make it a big thing. Eat a bit of breakfast in the morning, maybe some granola mid-morning, small lunch, mid-afternoon have some fruit, and then dinner. It's not as easy as it sounds, but it's not the hardest thing in the world either. Another substitute may be worth looking into is frozen yogurt over ice cream. Again, way healthier for you, and a fraction of the calories too.

It sounds to me like you're looking at this the right way. You aren't looking for quick shortcuts, you're acknowledging what's wrong and making an effort to change it. Good luck.
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Thank you! You have been a big help. My problem is, that when I get scared like this, I am scared to eat anything at all because it may be bad for me. I do not know really good low calorie and low fat meals to make other than baked chicken, so I feel like I will get sick of it and not want to eat healthy anymore. I don't even know if they carry frozen yogurt in stores here to be honest. I think i have only seen ice cream.

And yes, I want to do this right, and make it last. No shortcuts.
 
#35
John Deacon said:
Thank you! You have been a big help. My problem is, that when I get scared like this, I am scared to eat anything at all because it may be bad for me. I do not know really good low calorie and low fat meals to make other than baked chicken, so I feel like I will get sick of it and not want to eat healthy anymore. I don't even know if they carry frozen yogurt in stores here to be honest. I think i have only seen ice cream.

And yes, I want to do this right, and make it last. No shortcuts.
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Nutritionist! Go see one if you don't know what you should be eating. Eating healthy is way easier and cheaper than most people think. You just have to know what to eat and how to cook it. I do it easily on a student's budget. This sounds like the biggest thing that is holding you back, so I would invest the time and money into getting a few appointments with a nutritionist. It will be worth it.

lowsound
 
#36
iamlowsound said:
Nutritionist! Go see one if you don't know what you should be eating. Eating healthy is way easier and cheaper than most people think. You just have to know what to eat and how to cook it. I do it easily on a student's budget. This sounds like the biggest thing that is holding you back, so I would invest the time and money into getting a few appointments with a nutritionist. It will be worth it.

lowsound
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It isn't a bad idea at all. I guess I am just scared. Like I am a failure or something.
 

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