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D Lakin vs Fender P
- Thread starter bigboy_78
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That D Lakin looks like it was done at the same finish shop.Just sayin'.
And it may have been.....but I think that finish looks friggin AMAZING, as does the entire bass! And I know that if I wanted that exact bass in a Fender it would have to be a Custom Shop deal and they would charge me 8 million dollars.
Just Sayin'
That D Lakin looks like it was done at the same finish shop.
Have you seen a Lakin in person, not just a picture?
Honestly, what differentiates a Squier from a Fender nowadays? A logo. We have Fenders made in USA, Mexico, China, Japan. Squiers in Indonesia, Korea, China, etc.And it may have been.....but I think that finish looks friggin AMAZING, as does the entire bass! And I know that if I wanted that exact bass in a Fender it would have to be a Custom Shop deal and they would charge me 8 million dollars.
What really sets the Lakin apart from any other import bass that justifies a price that's on par with a Skyline or Metro and 2-4x higher than most Corts, Squiers, Ibanez, Spector Legend, Rockbass, etc?
No, but that doesn't change the fact that all the high quality photos floating around show a finish that reminds me of a Squier Affinity (even the ones on Dan's on site). Doesn't do much to sell me on a bass, and saying that I need to see one in person doesn't help either. It's not going to happen unless I want to take a $1500+ risk on having one sent to me, and I'm not doing that when there are so many great basses in my area that I can try without having to take a gamble on someone else's word.
Now, don't misread me. I'm not saying they're bad basses. I just want something more concrete when it comes to a review, and not just a subjective review from someone on TB, or a video by Ed Freidland that sounds like a paid endorsement.
I've seen the basses in person and was impressed with the finishes. As for the pics, even there I see a sparkle in the finishes that flies in the face of your "flat" description. Which leads to my next point--any review is going to be subjective.
The Lakins sell for $1250-$1350 in the US. Sadowsky Metro prices range from about $2350 to $3100.
The top of the line Squiers are very nice, I'd recommend them highly to anyone looking for a bass in that price range. But I wouldn't describe them as " killer", and I don't think I've heard anyone else call them that before. Sounds like a highly subjective description to me.They have it in a Squier model with Rosewood board...and it's a killer bass for under $500.
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I went to bed last night knowing full well that you would never let this go, and that I would wake up today with you trying to get the last word in....CONGRATS!
1. You know full well what differentiates a Squier from a Fender, and its not just the logo or the cheap candy finish. I have several Squiers and i love 'em, but I was comparing the Lakin to an American Fender... to get the options that this Lakin has is not possible without going custom.
2. What sets the Lakin apart is clearly visible in the picture I posted. You cannot purchase a Skyline, Cort, Squier, Ibanez, Legend, or Rockbass that looks exactly like that Lakin...and I have owned at least one of all those basses (and still own a few)...as for the Metro, never played one but they are clearly out of my price range...but the Lakin is well within my price, and it has the FEATURES that I like. Yes, that's right...the look, the specs, custom candy coated (killer) Squier colors, and options (maple FB, Inlays) that I am looking for. No one else but Carvin is gonna get close to these options for this price...and I dig the Lakin headstock.
Ok...feel free to take control of the thread again now.
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So, you're saying that a cosmetic inlay & painted headstock is what sets them apart? Really? That's all aesthetics. How about someone goes into what really matters? QUALITY! Geeze, man. Get your panties out of a bunch, grow up and have a conversation that doesn't involve blatant character attacks, FFS.
I don't get the attitude at all- I mean, there are a million basses out there I have no interest in buying, due to a million reasons. You made your point, repeatedly, and it's all based on your personal preferences and the way you percieve value.
Two things: prices never directly reflect the actual cost of materials, production, and distribution, but are based on the company's business model, perceived value, market conditions, and and on. You are fixated that anything that costs three times more than something you claim is similar should cost three times more- this is a flat out ridiculous expectation in itself.
Secondly, if you think a Squier is identical to a Fender AV (which these Lakin asses should rightfully e compared to for their features, etc) or to one of these Lakins then you are simply deluded. Maybe the differences are not evident or important to you but they are quantifiable.
Judging the quality of a finish from photographs is also extremely risky unless you are referring to obvious flaws.
I don't know what you have against Lakin except maybe some bruised pride at what you consider is his attitude to Lakland these days, but it doesn't seem all that rational from here. Why do you wish him to fail?
No bruised pride, as I have no idea what Lakin says about Lakland, nor do I think a Squier should be on par with these. I just want a review that's not written from the side of a fanboy who's still in the honeymoon phase.
Dan did himself a disservice with his Ambassador program- it puts in doubt any honest reviews and the motivations of the reviewers, unfortunately. But there have been lots of posts around the net where people who know their stuff are impressed with them, and at the price point. But for some the fact they can select their own colours is worth the price of admission itself. Why is what you want more important? I don't even believe you really care to find if they are quality or not, or you wouldn't be ranting like this over them without having any experience of them.
I want a weekend threesome with wanton shameless beauties. I'm willing to wait until it happens without whining on the internets, or insulting the real women who might actually take me home one at a time. Relax a bit.
Again- do you really want to know about these? Your mind seems retty made up and you have complained about Dan's attitude about Lakland, in black and white in this thread.
The more decent instruments out there the better, vote with your wallet instead of trying to trash someone's business based on your unfulfilled wishes.
You are also insulting other posters who might actually be posting honest reviews based on a rare concept called actual experience- not cool.
Uhmn...care to point out where I call out his attitude? You may have me confused with someone else. I have zero idea what his attitude is toward them, or them toward him. I don't follow that aspect of any company, honestly. And I'm not trying to trash anyone. I've stated my opinion on the finish and asked for comparisons to other known brands. That's hardly trashing anyone.
Also, I've insulted nobody. I called out Thundar on his blatant attack on me but nowhere did I insult anyone.
Off topic, I like your avatar, that is a beautiful dog.
Anyway, I think there are some people who have reviewed the Lakin who are pretty objective. It's cool if you are skeptical, but doubting people's objectivity openly is going to get people a little bothered.
BTW, as a photographer, I can say that you aren't going to know anything about a basses finish job by looking at pics. Until you have it in your hands, and can view it up close with your own eyes, you can't really tell the quality of the finish. Now, if you don't like the colors, that's cool. And, that's purely subjective, as well.
Sorry, got you confused with Tunaman, it was like an anti-Lakin tag team.
By insulting I was referring to you implying the posters defending the basses were not being 'objective'.
Seriously, though, your previous posts give so many reasons these basses don't interest you, and then you say you want reviews that aren't on TB, I just think you either want the impossible ( a truly objective review, an impossibility), or just have a bee in your bonnet and want to trash these instruments.
Having played the Lakin basses at Bass Direct here in the UK, I can tell you they're very good. The quality is top notch and if you're after a simple traditional bass, they're very well spec'd. To get the graphite rods, the through body stringing, the recessed neck bold system and the neodymium strip under the pickup (Glaub) for less than the price of an American Standard, you're doing well.
I played a Dingwall Super P4 on the same day and the Lakland was so much more focused and punchy. I was impressed enough to want one and I have some very high pedigree basses indeed.
In answer to the original premise of the thread, I'd go Lakin every time.
I played a Dingwall Super P4 on the same day and the Lakland was so much more focused and punchy. I was impressed enough to want one and I have some very high pedigree basses indeed.
In answer to the original premise of the thread, I'd go Lakin every time.
Too big to fail only exists in banking. FMIC isn't doing a massive sell-off because they're too big to fail.
That said, I really don't care either way, and would definitely consider a Lakin if I lived in an area where a Fender was twice as much. I just wanted to comment on the headstock. I used to think it was super ugly. Now, eh...not so bad.
That's all I got.
Even if they have played them, sometimes... I remember a thread a few years ago where a poster had recently purchased a custom shop jazz bass and started a thread to voice his disappointment in the sound of the instrument. Poster after poster lamented the poor quality control of Fender and demanded that the OP take the bass back immediately and demand a refund for the lemon. Eventually we found out the OP was 12 years old (really) and didn't know anything about anything. In fact another trusted poster chimed in to say he had played the bass from the store from where it was purchased and that it was spectacular! Be careful who you listen to for advice...
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