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Darkglass 212 Cab Frustrations

#61
dumbuser said:
They didn't realize they had sent me back an entirely different cab until I brought it up to them. They apologized profusely and offered me any choice of pedal (well maybe any choice. I didn't ask for an Anagram).
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Ahhh makes a huge difference.

*disregard all of my previous posts - my bad for not asking the right questions and speaking without all the details*
 
#64
Darkglass is waiting for the new stock of 212 cabs to come in and they're going to send me a brand new one.

I've been thinking about using this opportunity to try to get a 410 cab. Darkglass won't let me upgrade and pay the difference. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make this happen without selling the new cab for a massive loss and then just outright buying a new 410?
 
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#68
dumbuser said:
It's definitely a great cabinet. After having lived with it for a year though, I feel myself wanting a 410 more than a 212.
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Your only real options are:

1) Pony up for a 410 and purchase it outright.

2) Sell your 212 and purchase the 410 outright.

3) Post locally and find someone who is seeking the converse of your want (they seek a 212 in trade of their 410).

4) Purchase a supporting member ship here and seek 1 - 3 at your discretion using the TB classifieds.
 
#69
dumbuser said:
It's definitely a great cabinet. After having lived with it for a year though, I feel myself wanting a 410 more than a 212.
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Definitely follow this advise… keep the 212 (which is my primary gigging cabinet) and buy the 410 as well. You will drive yourself crazy trying to determine which one suits you best if you don’t own both for at least 6 months. In the end, you’ll probably end up keeping both because the 410 does give and awesome sound while the 212 is a slight trade off but with better portability. Which is more important to you? You’ll only know for sure if you own both for a while. This, of course, assumes you have the budget to pull this off.
 
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tshapiro said:
Definitely follow this advise… keep the 212 (which is my primary gigging cabinet) and buy the 410 as well. You will drive yourself crazy trying to determine which one suits you best if you don’t own both for at least 6 months. In the end, you’ll probably end up keeping both because the 410 does give and awesome sound while the 212 is a slight trade off but with better portability. Which is more important to you? You’ll only know for sure if you own both for a while. This, of course, assumes you have the budget to pull this off.
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I love this advice, but I definitely can't that that kind of financial hit. Tone is more important to me than portability. I only play a couple of bigger venues a year, so it's not a big deal that the 410 is slightly less portable.
 
#71
dumbuser said:
I'm here just to vent a little bit and also see if anyone else has had an experience like this.

I bought a brand-new Darkglass 212 cab about a year ago. Earlier this year, I noticed the sound cutting out randomly. Looking at the back of the cab, I could tell it was the Speakon connector. When you wiggle it, the sound cuts in and out. Switching the connector from the "In" port to the "Out" port produced a rock solid connection. I emailed Darkglass, they connected me with Korg, did a little troubleshooting (new cable, etc). They determined it was under warranty and eligible for replacement. Shipped the massive thing. What felt like a million weeks later, I get my "new" unit on the doorstep.

Instead of giving me a new cab or fixing my current cab, they sent me a used one that was cosmetically in much worse shape. But hey, at least it worked. Darkglass was even kind enough to supply me with a free pedal as a way of saying sorry. Very cool.

A couple of weeks later, the issue surfaces again. The "In" port cuts in and out while the "Out" port works perfectly fine. They had me try a new cable - no difference. Now they want me to try a different amp. That's where I'm at right now. A bit of a pain since I don't have another amp, but I'll get it figured out.

Anyone else have this problem with their 212 cab? Did it ever get fixed?
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This sounds to me like the way you have it cabled is putting stress on the connector at the back of the cab. The out port is seeing less use and thus is not damaged. The in port has probably had strain without much strain relief and is giving way.
 
#72
dumbuser said:
I love this advice, but I definitely can't that that kind of financial hit. Tone is more important to me than portability. I only play a couple of bigger venues a year, so it's not a big deal that the 410 is slightly less portable.
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Well, if you are getting a new-in-box 212 than that is the time to sell it. 212 is warmer. 410 is louder and punchier. Both are rated for the same low frequency. If it’s just coming down to which would you like better live than make the moves and get the 410 now. Lick your wounds on the resale loss on the 212. I only say that because in my personal-non-scientific opinion a 410 is the best live cab. My previous live rig was 2 old style heavy 410’s stacked. I’m currently using a Darkglass 212 because one fell into my lap for cheap and I’m actually happy with the narrower floor space it takes up. Also keep in mind I’m a gear junky and I have 8ish cabs. If I had to pick 1 that I had to live with forever I’d probably get the DG410 and call it a day.
 
#73
63hz said:
This sounds to me like the way you have it cabled is putting stress on the connector at the back of the cab. The out port is seeing less use and thus is not damaged. The in port has probably had strain without much strain relief and is giving way.
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If you read through the posts, your would have discovered that this is a known problem throughout the industry. A small number of the new style SpeakOn plugs have tolerance issues with the combo jacks (not the conventional jacks).
 
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#76
AccursedBass said:
My Darkglass 212 won’t work with a speakon cable either. It’s fine it a regular 1/4” speaker cable.
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If you read through the above replies (by me and the other knowledgeable guys, ignore the off-base comments) you will understand what's going on and why.
 
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#78
This is good info, I will take note to avoid cab with a combo jack.

Some manufacturers do offer separate neutrik and 1/4” jacks.
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