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Dave Hall VT-1
- Thread starter Sweets
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Wonderful post, I just found out about these as well. I've heard really good things and really bad things and would like to know.
I believe Toasted has some experience with them.,
I believe Toasted has some experience with them.,
Unchain said:
I seriously doubt that! I think that you might be a bit confused. DHA VT-1's are made in small quantities by a guy in England. I'll reserve judgement on them until after Tayste_2000's post
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So yeah it's got a tube in it, yeah it's hand built, doe that stop it sounding like crap NO, not everything with a tube in is good, not everything with a tube in has a smooth gritty tube tone that we all love.
I have always been massively skeptical on these pedals, to the point that in the new few weeks I may buy one to either quash or prove my point, as he has a money back guarentee.
My main problem is if you look inside the pedal there isn't much and tecx has confirmed to me that it appears that there is no way near enough stuff in there for it to actually use the tube for the distortion. So this makes it you bog standard distortion with a light bulb taped to the side.
My other concerns were every tube pedal I've seen, akai, ehx and guyatone have all been quite big and had lots of vents on them, as we all know tubes get quite hot. The DHA is very small, has no vents, he claims that other companies just do the vents for show, to make it look cool when the tube glows.
Just a thought like I've said I've not tried one but I've heard the many sound smaples in that thread and none of them sound tube like and most of them sound like an average fuzz pedal.
Hope this helps
I have always been massively skeptical on these pedals, to the point that in the new few weeks I may buy one to either quash or prove my point, as he has a money back guarentee.
My main problem is if you look inside the pedal there isn't much and tecx has confirmed to me that it appears that there is no way near enough stuff in there for it to actually use the tube for the distortion. So this makes it you bog standard distortion with a light bulb taped to the side.
My other concerns were every tube pedal I've seen, akai, ehx and guyatone have all been quite big and had lots of vents on them, as we all know tubes get quite hot. The DHA is very small, has no vents, he claims that other companies just do the vents for show, to make it look cool when the tube glows.
Just a thought like I've said I've not tried one but I've heard the many sound smaples in that thread and none of them sound tube like and most of them sound like an average fuzz pedal.
Hope this helps
I agree 100% with all the skepticisim. I was very underwhelmed by those audio clips, too. Kinda bleah... Nothing special at all. But, it could just be bad recording... maybe... benefit-of-the-doubt, and all... And all that praise over at bassworld?!?! What's up with that?
The power supply apparently drives the tube at 24V, which is similar to a number of various well known commercial devices that actually have decent reputations. There are also a few DIY schematics floating around (with reports of excellent sound) that also use this kind of low voltage, starved-plate configuration as well as minimal parts counts.
I'm not trying to sway anyone's skepticism. Like I said, I'm skeptical, myself. It's just really hard to make any kind of definitive judgement based on internet hype and a few lame sound clips. I've tried a number of pedals that sounded fantastic on their own, but just got totally lost in the mix with the whole band.
You never really know until you try...
~ Charlie
The power supply apparently drives the tube at 24V, which is similar to a number of various well known commercial devices that actually have decent reputations. There are also a few DIY schematics floating around (with reports of excellent sound) that also use this kind of low voltage, starved-plate configuration as well as minimal parts counts.
I'm not trying to sway anyone's skepticism. Like I said, I'm skeptical, myself. It's just really hard to make any kind of definitive judgement based on internet hype and a few lame sound clips. I've tried a number of pedals that sounded fantastic on their own, but just got totally lost in the mix with the whole band.
You never really know until you try...
~ Charlie
FWIW I recorded those clips so people could get a bit of an idea of how the pedal sounds being an unknown quantity. Yes they are not great clips because the output was a bit high for the sound card. Hey ho.
The pedal case does get warm after a few hours use but not too hot.
Unfortunately Tayste there isn't a light bulb inside, just an ECC83/12ax7 valve.
Granted I've not tried half as many OD/fuzz/gain pedals as you, but this is by far and away the best I've tried and it's staying on my board (and is never turned off). The only change I've made is by replacing the EH valve with a Mullard, which made it sound exactly how I wanted it to - warm and slightly overdriven.
My keyboardist has been searching for an OD pedal to give his hammond/leslie THAT hammond sound (think Deep Purple). After briefly trying mine he bought his own and I believe it doesn't get turned off much.
Just my 2p.
The pedal case does get warm after a few hours use but not too hot.
Unfortunately Tayste there isn't a light bulb inside, just an ECC83/12ax7 valve.
Granted I've not tried half as many OD/fuzz/gain pedals as you, but this is by far and away the best I've tried and it's staying on my board (and is never turned off). The only change I've made is by replacing the EH valve with a Mullard, which made it sound exactly how I wanted it to - warm and slightly overdriven.
My keyboardist has been searching for an OD pedal to give his hammond/leslie THAT hammond sound (think Deep Purple). After briefly trying mine he bought his own and I believe it doesn't get turned off much.
Just my 2p.
I know they are. It was a used pedal, and it was a while ago. The guy who sold it to the shop sells them a lot of boutique pedals.Toasted said:
Yeah, I agree TaySte. The clips sound like the pedal is a. not doing too much tone-wise, just a bit fatter in the low end and b. a bit crap on the distortion side.
I guess the best thing to do would be to only get one if you felt it necessary to have a valve pre-amp, and not to expect too much from the distortion side of things.
I've heard better pre-amps though, and better distortions. And thats from listening to crappy samples recorded badly on the internet.
I guess the best thing to do would be to only get one if you felt it necessary to have a valve pre-amp, and not to expect too much from the distortion side of things.
I've heard better pre-amps though, and better distortions. And thats from listening to crappy samples recorded badly on the internet.
Yeah you people should check that bassworld thread again, it still amazes me how people will happily tell you its the best thing in the world but not back it up, even Dave Hall who posted in the thread, yeah sure he stands by his pedals but not enought to provide sound clips 
But whatever I'm happy for people to make mistakes (as many as they want) but we all let each other know about ebay scams and crappy built basses even if it's just a story, so why not these, to me these are the Wish Bass of the pedal world (and hey some people like wishbass)
But whatever I'm happy for people to make mistakes (as many as they want) but we all let each other know about ebay scams and crappy built basses even if it's just a story, so why not these, to me these are the Wish Bass of the pedal world (and hey some people like wishbass)
TaySte_2000 said:
I am small manufacturer that does this for fun, it's not my real job. I am not sure why you are so against me and why you attack my pedals on this and other sites without ever even seeing one. If you don't like the sound of them then please don't buy one, I will get over it!
regards
Dave
Wow. I'm really intrigued now. Anywhere to try one of these in the US? Or are they only available in the UK?
Sako said:
Hi,
I have sold only 8 ValveTone pedals into the US so far, 5 of these are bass models, 3 x VT1-HP-Bass, 1 x VT1-Purist-Bass and one VT Dual Bass which I posted this week.
It would be wrong of me give out the email address of these users but some may be TB members. You could look back at my ebay feedback which has all been good from these guys.
regards
Dave
