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dave holland's electric
- Thread starter soholounge
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I agree--it looks like a Tokai, which was a high-quality and well-regarded Asian (Japanese?) Fender clone from the 80's and 90's.
Mike
Mike
That is indeed a Tokai J-style in the photo. With Miles, he used a Fender P.
As far as I know that tour with Hancock/Metheny/DeJohnette was the last time he played electric bass. There is a video from that tour (on LD, VHS and now DVD) and Dave can be seen doing some slapping!!!
As far as I know that tour with Hancock/Metheny/DeJohnette was the last time he played electric bass. There is a video from that tour (on LD, VHS and now DVD) and Dave can be seen doing some slapping!!!
Dave's Big Band stuff is just brilliant. One of my favorites of the "modern" jazz movement. The fact that he is an amazing player only reconfirms my belief that as bass players, WE RULE!
Now, if only I could play upright...
Now, if only I could play upright...
Classical_Thump said:
Examples of Dave on electric are RARE. I would recommend Miles' 'It's About That Time: Live at the Filmore East, March 7, 1970'.
Trying picking up the DVD 'Miles Electric: A Different Kind of Blue', which includes the full Isle of Wight festival performance.
i love that DVD!
course, i bought it for DeJohnette's drummin'...
course, at least, there's no annoying keith jarrett whining...
course, i bought it for DeJohnette's drummin'...
course, at least, there's no annoying keith jarrett whining...
Here's a part of an 2000 interview :
Q.You occasionally step into the world of electric bass. Describe your relationship with the instrument.
DH
I like playing electric bass. Its not that I dont enjoy it. I have a lot of fun playing it, but there are so many great players on the electric bass that have spent a life developing the instrument uniquely like Marcus Miller and Jaco. I prefer to let them have that and Ill stick with what I do. Its also to do with the nature of the acoustic bass and character of it. Its very much a part of the music Im hearing. The electric bass is still part of my vocabulary, but I don't feel as much of a distinctive voice on the bass guitar compared to my much more personal connection to the acoustic bass. I feel thats my strongest position to take musically, so why not take that?
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Q.You occasionally step into the world of electric bass. Describe your relationship with the instrument.
DH
I like playing electric bass. Its not that I dont enjoy it. I have a lot of fun playing it, but there are so many great players on the electric bass that have spent a life developing the instrument uniquely like Marcus Miller and Jaco. I prefer to let them have that and Ill stick with what I do. Its also to do with the nature of the acoustic bass and character of it. Its very much a part of the music Im hearing. The electric bass is still part of my vocabulary, but I don't feel as much of a distinctive voice on the bass guitar compared to my much more personal connection to the acoustic bass. I feel thats my strongest position to take musically, so why not take that?
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the parallel realities group DVD that was mentioned above has Dave playing electric on about 3 songs (my favorite is 9 over reggae which grooves like heck over 9/8).
that's where i got that screenshot picture.
he played electric on a couple of tracks on a steve coleman or m-base album. can't remember which one... this is gonna keep me up tonight, damn.
also, i think he was on electric on 1 or 2 songs on either Big Fun or Bitches Brew with Miles.
great stuff.
i like Dave on electric cuz he doesn't try to sound like an electric bass guitar virtuoso. just plays real solid.
that's where i got that screenshot picture.
he played electric on a couple of tracks on a steve coleman or m-base album. can't remember which one... this is gonna keep me up tonight, damn.
also, i think he was on electric on 1 or 2 songs on either Big Fun or Bitches Brew with Miles.
great stuff.
i like Dave on electric cuz he doesn't try to sound like an electric bass guitar virtuoso. just plays real solid.
lists dave on electric on a couple tracks.
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and this one! awesome album.
http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=md-bblatfw
just in case anybody REALLY wanted to know.
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and this one! awesome album.
http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=md-bblatfw
just in case anybody REALLY wanted to know.
soholounge said:
On the other hand, he is clearly a DB virtuoso...!!
I saw him play a piece written for him, by the contemporary classical composer Marc Anthony Turnage - "Bass Inventions"
This was for solo Jazz Double Bass and two ensembles - so there was a small Chamber Orchestra and a Jazz ensemble - circa Miles electric period - electric pianos, drums etc.
Dave Holland stood in the middle and had an extensive, complex, written part, as well as sections where he improvised solos in a Jazz fusion style - it was certainly virtuoso stuff!!
Bruce Lindfield said:On the other hand, he is clearly a DB virtuoso...!!
exactly!
that's why i found his electric playing refreshing in a way.
cuz i have most of his ecm stuff and he makes my head hurt sometimes. haha.
(not that he couldn't do that on electric if he wanted to... i'm sure)
I’ve been a fan of Dave Holland for a long time. Saw him live first in the mid seventies in Québec city when he and Anthony Braxton played duets live. Awesome. Saw him again last night (more than 45 years later) with the Université de Montréal Big Band… WOW. He really gets into the music and its excitement and is so graceful, inspirational, and kind to the young generation… I also discovered much earlier his amazing electric playing on an LP by a band led by Neil Larsen and Buzz Feiten (1972) - he played electric on the song Malibu which has a wonderful « RB-jazz » feel to it - check it out here: . He also wrote Three Step Dance which is straight out from his work with Miles Davis in the intro - but moves later harmonically into the best jazz fusion grooves of the period:
He also plays electric on a few tracks from the trio album/CD Another Land that came out in 2021 with Kevin Eubanks and Obed Calvaire which harkens to the best jazz fusion - available on BandCamp: See also this other thread about this album: Dave Holland to release new album in May
There are several other albums of note where he plays electric that you could share with the TB community.
He also plays electric on a few tracks from the trio album/CD Another Land that came out in 2021 with Kevin Eubanks and Obed Calvaire which harkens to the best jazz fusion - available on BandCamp: See also this other thread about this album: Dave Holland to release new album in May
There are several other albums of note where he plays electric that you could share with the TB community.
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In the early '70s I sat in for a moment with Larry Young, the organist in the Tony Williams Lifetime, Bitches Blue et al. He was playing with Love Cry Want. They had a great bassist. The bassist who sat in that day was Dave Holland. He gave me permission to play his blond Guild Starfire for that jam.
