Dudes if you think wood doesnt affect tone... check out the "Wood Matters Club" and the "Wood Doesnt matter club". This is all discussed many times with a few death threats thrown in for good measure so read up!
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dead bass. Is it the wood?
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Realistically the OP is comparing two entry-level basses that are Asian copies and have a classic history (as do many budget Asian or Mexican copies) of INCONSISTENCY.
From a logical perspective, if he can't get his instrument to sound the way he wants, it would be perhaps best to cut his losses and sell - rather than put more money into what cannot be altered without major money (high quality neck,etc) because at this point it would be wasteful to put more money into a low preforming unit where he could buy something higher on the quality scale.
It's inconsistency that makes the greatest difference in low-cost copies. There are SOME exceptions in consistent quality like the G&L Tradition and the RAY but they are not in the price point bracket of the OLP.
If you win when playing poker and then start to loose; it's time to push away from the table.
From a logical perspective, if he can't get his instrument to sound the way he wants, it would be perhaps best to cut his losses and sell - rather than put more money into what cannot be altered without major money (high quality neck,etc) because at this point it would be wasteful to put more money into a low preforming unit where he could buy something higher on the quality scale.
It's inconsistency that makes the greatest difference in low-cost copies. There are SOME exceptions in consistent quality like the G&L Tradition and the RAY but they are not in the price point bracket of the OLP.
If you win when playing poker and then start to loose; it's time to push away from the table.
Really death threats too? I missed that part, guess I gave up when it turned into yet another holy war.
Not in THIS universe. You're 100% correct.
The wood takith away; never adds to the sound.
The wood affects the string's vibrations; the string affects the magnetic field. So, the wood affects the magnetic field using the strings as a proxy.
Problem solved!
O:K first I would like to say that I certainly won´t be issuing any death threats,,,and hopefully not receiving any either...BUT..if some one can explain to me scientifically - not hearsay or faith-based opinion - how a wholly electronic sound can be affected by the wood then I might re-think...I am not stupd or close-minded, but I simply cannnot begin to understand how the type of wood can affect the electrical impulses, magnetic field etc. to me it´s like saying - eating chicken soup with a maple spoon will taste different to eating it with an alder spoon.
The wood affects the string's vibrations; the string affects the magnetic field. So, the wood affects the magnetic field using the strings as a proxy.
Problem solved!
Not convinced..need more than that
Not convinced..need more than that
Don't care if you're convinced, but that's exactly how it works.
Edit: There are threads on this topic that already cover this ground. Feel free to search them out.
the original saddles look like chrome plated plastic junk. no wonder why the tone suffered. glad the saddle screws, springs, and plate are made out of metal
Hi (not aimed at anyone directly), welcome to Setup & Repair. Here we don't make the moderators figure out "tone" from our posting.
I will always err on the side of caution.
I will always err on the side of caution.
Wood affects sustain, I don't think that can be argued. Every piece of wood is unique, even within species, that is fact. So any combination of species used in a neck and body will have different sustain properties. Even between two same instuments of the same construction model; although it may be difficult to tell and some will just be dead. Sustain translates into electromagnetic signal via p'ups therefore wood affects the duration of the signal. Sometimes the wood will not sustain long: dead instrument.
Sustain is part of tone, so is the coil, mags, quality of copper in the wire could even play into it, etc. You can't just say one species is best, ridiculous to try. It has been proven that spruce lumber can sound incredible. If the lumber is wet and compared to some really dry, or with 70 knots in it, they will sustain differently and tone will be affected. But you can't just look at a species and write it off tone wise, etc.
Sustain is part of tone, so is the coil, mags, quality of copper in the wire could even play into it, etc. You can't just say one species is best, ridiculous to try. It has been proven that spruce lumber can sound incredible. If the lumber is wet and compared to some really dry, or with 70 knots in it, they will sustain differently and tone will be affected. But you can't just look at a species and write it off tone wise, etc.
