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Deal/NoDeal (not the game show)

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Lesfunk

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The situation that I dealt with this weekend is making my head spin.

I saw a bass for sale January 25 on social media marketplace. Immediately messaged my intent to purchase and hastily scraped together funds to cover it.
A friendly deal was made. I Met his posted price. I did not haggle . Paid the seller Saturday morning (again without haggling) . Confirmed receipt of the payment and was told the bass would ship Monday.
He held my money for two days while still having friendly daily communication via txt. We discussed how nice the bass was etc..
Yesterday (Monday) afternoon I get a message saying the deal was off and he got a higher offer (after I already purchased it)
(all the original listings have since been edited by the seller to wipe out the original asking price)

At the same time is was browsing talkbass classified and came across the same bass listed here at a higher price.
Apparently he had an ad going here at the same time while I had already purchased the instrument two days earlier.
It’s still up for sale (as of today Feb 1) and is apparently the listing is hinting at a “semi auction situation with a reserve set”.
The word auction is not mentioned but can be implied from the wording.

The thing that got me upset was that I accepted a lowball offer on a very expensive item that I wouldn’t have accepted otherwise.
I believed that we had a done deal and needed to cover my new purchase.

So not only am I out of the running for the bass I paid for , with my money now sitting in “PayPal refund limbo”, I’m also out the $600 I left on the table by accepting a low offer to cover the “purchase” from a disingenuous seller.

I would have purchased the bass even at the inflated price if the seller had posted it in the first place or even given me an opportunity to meet the offer, (although that shouldn’t have ever been in play…I already bought it)I just got a refund notice from PayPal and a “sorry man…”
Caveat emptor indeed
 
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Yeah you got the short end. On the plus side, the bass probably has a ski jump neck with an irreparable truss rod and smells like Reagan-era bongwater.
Get your money back and move on. Report the chooch to the relevant governing body if the spirit moves you.

A better experience awaits. Best of luck.
 
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All kinds of wrong. I'm not sure what you should do about it. But that guy is a....."bad person". (Insert more creative terminology where applicable.)

I wouldn't mind knowing who the perp is.
there’s nothing I can do about it. I did everything right. The seller even said so via txt. I have the entire convo documented.
Now I’m at the moment packing up a very expensive and not easily replaced bass to send to a guy who got one hell of a deal, all because I thought I had to cash in to pay for my dream bass.
It was a dream alright…..for sure
 
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So...a friendly deal was made, you paid the guy the price he posted, he held your money for two days while still communicating with you, then he backed out?

Unless I'm missing something, the seller is all kinds of wrong!
You’re not missing anything from my p.o.v. That’s exactly how it went down.
The seller claimed all kinds of extenuating circumstances that came to light after I paid him.
The rarity and sentimental value of the instrument ( not to him, but to the one who offered more after the sale)
Etc.
 
there’s nothing I can do about it. I did everything right. The seller even said so via txt. I have the entire convo documented.
Now I’m at the moment packing up a very expensive and not easily replaced bass to send to a guy who got one hell of a deal, all because I thought I had to cash in to pay for my dream bass.
It was a dream alright…..for sure

Sorry that happened to you. I was a victim to a flipper here myself a few years back. My problem was that I waited several months to finally try to set up the bass. (I was just so busy at the time I never had time to play it for a while.) When I went to get a setup, the neck was twisted. Of course he said I left it in the sun or cold or whatever. It had been in a closet in my house the whole time. I wound up having a neck made for the bass. I'm happy with it now but it was a long, and expensive, journey to get me there. That "bad person" is still flipping here and elsewhere. (My terminology for that dude is WAY more creative.) Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if it was the same guy. Sounds like him.

Man, at least you can sleep tonight knowing you're not a jersey. That guy can't. That's all I got.
 
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Sorry that happened to you. I was a victim to a flipper here myself a few years back. My problem was that I waited several months to finally try to set up the bass. (I was just so busy at the time I never had time to play it for a while.) When I went to get a setup, the neck was twisted. Of course he said I left it in the sun or cold or whatever. It had been in a closet in my house the whole time. I wound up having a neck made for the bass. I'm happy with it now but it was a long, and expensive, journey to get me there. That "bad person" is still flipping here and elsewhere. (My terminology for that dude is WAY more creative.) Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if it was the same guy. Sounds like him.

Man, at least you can sleep tonight knowing you're not a jersey. That guy can't. That's all I got.

I don’t have a problem with people flipping instruments. I do it from time to time. I fall in love with a bass, decide that it doesn’t work out, and sell it. But I always honor the deal I made because you never know what the person on the other end of the deal sacrificed in order to come up with the money to buy it.
I could’ve paid a months worth of bills with the money I sacrificed to buy this thing that didn’t happen
 
All kinds of wrong. I'm not sure what you should do about it. But that guy is a....."bad person". (Insert more creative terminology where applicable.)

I wouldn't mind knowing who the perp is.

Dooooosh would work for me :) ?

I too wouldn't mind knowing who it was.

Not cool by any stretch, but people will be people. Sorry this happened.
 
Sorry for your deal gone South, but at least you'll get your money back.

If I had a dollar for every one of these 'bought this from a guy online' derailed deals, I'd have two dozen Alembics. Always reminds me why if I'm going to buy online, it's only from a real, brick and mortar business, and if I'm going to buy from 'some guy on the internet or CL or Facebook Marketplace', it's local ONLY, where I can meet up face-to-face, he hands me an axe when I hand him the money.

Better luck next time.
 
That's poor form on his part. I don't if they've changed this law, but in Japan it's legal to post an ad for something that is not in your physical possession. Example: I snap pics of a MIJ jazz bass at a Tokyo shop. I go home and put it up on Ebay or Reverb.
 
Sorry for your deal gone South, but at least you'll get your money back.

If I had a dollar for every one of these 'bought this from a guy online' derailed deals, I'd have two dozen Alembics. Always reminds me why if I'm going to buy online, it's only from a real, brick and mortar business, and if I'm going to buy from 'some guy on the internet or CL or Facebook Marketplace', it's local ONLY, where I can meet up face-to-face, he hands me an axe when I hand him the money.

Better luck next time.

The seller is in the wrong, but there's essentially zero you can do about it since Facebook Marketplace (assuming that's where it was) has no feedback mechanism.
Yes the deal was done through FB marketplace, I saw it through there because that’s where the listing was first seen and conversation initiated. but the seller is a member here and does have positive (though not extensive) feedback stats.and even is a commercial user. I figured it was safe enough
 
at the moment packing up a very expensive and not easily replaced bass to send to a guy who got one hell of a deal, all because I thought I had to cash in to pay for my dream bass.
...sure, but that has nothing to do with your deal on the "dream bass" --- where you were shafted/shorted by a poor-form seller.

i hope you get that dream bass --- hope it goes better for you next time! :thumbsup:
 
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