Deal/NoDeal (not the game show)

[two fingers]

I don’t have a problem with people flipping instruments. I do it from time to time. I fall in love with a bass, decide that it doesn’t work out, and sell it. But I always honor the deal I made because you never know what the person on the other end of the deal sacrificed in order to come up with the money to buy it.
I could’ve paid a months worth of bills with the money I sacrificed to buy this thing that didn’t happen

I have no ethical issue with the practice itself either. But some of them are....bad people.

 

[IBJammin]

Im in favor of name-and-shame, but that probably is against the rules. You said he was listed as "commercial user" here on TB - I would report this to the mods to make them aware of their games. "Commercial user" implies he makes a full living on reneging on deals just like this.
Maybe, you could subtly ask questions on their other sales here, like "Hey, is this the final price, or is this really a secret auction and you will renege two days after confirmation of payment because you listed for more on another site?"

 

[Lesfunk]

I’m not going to out anyone in here public to create drama.
It serves more bad than good.

I’m Just surprised that I’m still feeling so steamed about it the next day
I had a five hour drive home in the middle of the night from a four day weekend of gigs in south Florida to ruminate . It did make the ride go faster…

 

[Joe Nerve]

too bad yer inbox is full…lol

Gotta renew my membership this week... I'll get there .

 

[bassinflorida]

May be a good idea to consult with you privately before any one of us decide to make a purchase from another Tber. Yes? No? Maybe?

 

[Relsom]

Sucks. Total ass. Would be to all our benefit to get a link to the ad in our TB classifieds. see what i did there.

I agree. And auction style isn't the way it's done here.

 

[BassFishingInAmerica]

This guy sounds like a real piece of work. If the bass is for sale on TB, it should be known to avoid.

 

[yodedude2]

i always appreciate knowing who the folks are that will not honor a deal they made. i've met a few on t.b. myself and normally block them.

 

[kentiki]

This is bs! Call him out! Others need to be warned.

 

[friskinator]

I won't buy from known serial flippers, here or otherwise. I almost bought an amp from one of them here a few years ago, and after sending the PM to ask if it was still available, I decided to not go through with it. They score a deal, then immediately list here. I'd be surprised if some of those items are even tested.

 

[two fingers]

too bad yer inbox is full…lol

Mine isn't. And I know how to get up with Joe outside of TB.

 

[MynameisMe]

Unethical to say the least.
Morals decline to some where money is involved. Unfortunate.

 

[Lesfunk]

I won't buy from known serial flippers, here or otherwise. I almost bought an amp from one of them here a few years ago, and after sending the PM to ask if it was still available, I decided to not go through with it. They score a deal, then immediately list here. I'd be surprised if some of those items are even tested.

There is no evidence to support the case of this being serial flipper type person. By all accounts the seller had owned the instrument for over a year at least.

 

[Killing Floor]

Anonymous seller or someone you can creatively teach a lesson to?

 

[coy garcia]

Not cool.. I would be upset. Tell us what kind of bass it was though.

 

[gln1955]

I have no problem with flippers. It's free enterprise.

I do have a problem with someone reneging on a done deal. That person should not be allowed to do business here.

 

[Nuage420]

I do have a problem with someone reneging on a done deal. That person should not be allowed to do business here.

Yea, everything else about this situation on either side is irrelevant honestly. A deal was made and not honored.

 

[lermgalieu]

Not sure what this has to do with flipping. This is about getting screwed, not flipping. I feel bad for you. Unfortunately there’s probably not much you can do about it that would be worth the effort.

 

[bobdabilder]

Does the bass weigh 8 lbs?

The situation that I dealt with this weekend is making my head spin.

I saw a bass for sale January 25 on social media marketplace. Immediately messaged my intent to purchase and hastily scraped together funds to cover it.
A friendly deal was made. I Met his posted price. I did not haggle . Paid the seller Saturday morning (again without haggling) . Confirmed receipt of the payment and was told the bass would ship Monday.
He held my money for two days while still having friendly daily communication via txt. We discussed how nice the bass was etc..
Yesterday (Monday) afternoon I get a message saying the deal was off and he got a higher offer (after I already purchased it)
(all the original listings have since been edited by the seller to wipe out the original asking price)

At the same time is was browsing talkbass classified and came across the same bass listed here at a higher price.
Apparently he had an ad going here at the same time while I had already purchased the instrument two days earlier.
It’s still up for sale (as of today Feb 1) and is apparently the listing is hinting at a “semi auction situation with a reserve set”.
The word auction is not mentioned but can be implied from the wording.

The thing that got me upset was that I accepted a lowball offer on a very expensive item that I wouldn’t have accepted otherwise.
I believed that we had a done deal and needed to cover my new purchase.

So not only am I out of the running for the bass I paid for , with my money now sitting in “PayPal refund limbo”, I’m also out the $600 I left on the table by accepting a low offer to cover the “purchase” from a disingenuous seller.

I would have purchased the bass even at the inflated price if the seller had posted it in the first place or even given me an opportunity to meet the offer, (although that shouldn’t have ever been in play…I already bought it)I just got a refund notice from PayPal and a “sorry man…”
Caveat emptor indeed

 

[Lesfunk]

Does the bass weigh 8 lbs?

I think it does. I never got a chance to weigh it