Delano Hybrid- questions

[DevinF]

I am considering putting a Delano Hybrid into my bass with the recommended set up (matching J and Sonar 2 pre-amp), and i have a few questions for those in the know:

How many knobs/switches will this set up have when it is all said and done?

Is it practical to think I will be able to wire these myself?

Will the Sonar 2 pre-amp fit in the top route of a Fender J-bass?

And any comments regarding sound, quality, etc are encouraged. (specifically how well they mimic classic J sounds and MM sounds with the humbucker in the traditional MM Sweetspot)

Thanks,
Devin

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

The Sonar 2 is a 4 knob preamp, you've got a volume, blend, bass and treble. One of the pots (knobs) is push/pull so you can switch to passive.

How practical will be to wire? I don't know. Can you solder? If so, it should be easy enough. (I think all you'll need to do is solder the pickups into the circuit?).

Will it fit? I'd think so. The preamp itself is pretty small. A bigger problem will be where to stick the battery box.

 

[DevinF]

I am getting a Warmoth body, so i will be sure to have it routed for a battery.

If i understood the website correctly (which i may not have), the Hybdrid MM pickup itself comes with a knob (which could easily be the push pull volume) and a switch of some sort...

Is the Sonar 2 available with a stack knob?

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

You're right, it can (should) be wired with a switch for full use.

Don't see another pot with it tho?

I've not seen it with a stack knob, you might be able to get one that could work, but I don't know the pot values. It is unlikely you'll be able to get an off the shelf stacked pot for the specs tho.

 

[DevinF]

Have you heard or played a Hybrid system yet?

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Not played it, but I've heard it, sounds pretty good.

Someone posted some sound clips on here a few years back.

(also fancy getting a Sandberg at some point, and you can get those with Delanos)

 

[DevinF]

As cool as Sandberg's are. I think they are a bit out of my price range. Especially with the Delano's.

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

You possibly misunderstood me.

I said I fancy getting one, doesn't mean it'll happen any time soon

 

[DevinF]

Oh, Gotcha. Maybe some day. But man this are some awesome basses

 

[jumbodbassman]

I have been thinking about the hybrid for a bass project. the description sounds great. Is the j pickup really passive and the mm active like they say. any volume dropoff??

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

I've never heard anyone say that?

As far as I know, all the pickups are passive.

(the MM pickup in Stingrays is passive too for what it matters)

 

[jumbodbassman]

their website is confusing to me.

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[i_got_a_mohawk]

Ahh, that's if using the preamp. Sorry if that's what you meant, I was just thinking of the pup

 

[DevinF]

That website is plenty confusing. Which is why I had soany questions about the setup

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

I think the problem is the website is worded only for use of the pickups with the Delano preamps.

 

[DevinF]

Yeah. I was thinking that too. But if I do go all out on the Hybrid, I'll get a Delano preamp. No point in separating the twins haha. The expensive part of the set up is the hybrid pickup itself anyways, so getting a more affordable preamp will likely only save 20 bucks, but cause way more head aches

 

[Moreheadroom]

I reckon their website is a touch confusing too. Right at the bottom of the faq page it does say the hybrid is passive. So there's no reason the whole system couldn't stay fully passive??? I bypassed the pre in my mm sub and it still sounded tough enough....but there is an awful lot of wire in them and the delano should be similar....
I'm half serious about dropping one of these on its own into my old musicmaster and staying passive. If it needs help I guess you can add the preamp later. (the router aint gunna be far away after making a mm size hole anyway)
Be cool to see how you guys get on

 

[levito]

All Delano pickups are passive. But the Hybrid should be used with the matching active electronics. I don't think this guy would work well in full passive operation. In humbucking mode it is very low impedance, like an early pre-EB Sting Ray. In single coil mode it's like a 60s Jazz.

I just got a Clover Apeiron H.5 which has a Hybrid/J setup. With the EQ set flat there is virtually no change in volume. The sounds are pretty convincing. Snarly Jazz growl, aggressive Ray punch! The EQ is only active in MM mode. J mode is full passive with a passive tone control.

I would recommend this pickup/set to anyone looking for authentic passive 60s Jazz/Sting Ray sounds. But you should go for the active electronics then. If you want to stay full passive, try the or the MC 4 FE (MC 4 FE/J M2 for full hum cancelling) or the MC 4 AL (should be more towards the Hybrid because of AlNiCo, but no hum cancelling split mode).

I have played Sandberg Californias which have the MC 4 FE/J M2 - they give a quite nice MM-like sound in humbucking mode (better than e.g. Laklands) and a modern Jazz sound (more towards Marcus than Jaco). Havent tried the MC 4 FE though.

 

[DaveAceofBass]

Is there any reason the Hybrid couldn't work with a different EQ? What about using it in active when in single coil mode? Other preamps have active/passive switching and coil tapping options.

 

[line6man]

Is there any reason the Hybrid couldn't work with a different EQ? What about using it in active when in single coil mode? Other preamps have active/passive switching and coil tapping options.

Nope. Use whatever preamp you want.

Active/passive switching and coil tapping are not features of any preamp. They are wiring choices.