detunable bridge

[FatCity]

Is there such an item as a detunable bridge that could be installed on a Fender Jazz or P? I am interested in being able to detune the bass 1/2 step "on the fly" to cut down on having to switch basses mid set.

Thanks in advance

 

[Musiclogic]

I remember "Trilogy" was supposed to have a model for bass, but not sure if it was discontinued.

Google Trilogy Bridges....maybe you can find out

 

[tplyons]

Trilogy's are made by Hipshot, and they do not have a bass model.

However, Hipshot makes the Xtender, a tuner with a lever to detune to a set pitch.

 

[The Mock Turtle Regulator]

Hohner B basses (headed) had a bridge with a Detuning lever for the E string.

and some Ibanez soundgear basses have monorail bridges with a detuning one for E.

 

[jonas_oxide]

this is the perfect segue into my question, where do I get a bridge a la michael manring hyperbass? or who made it, or any info regarding it.

 

[tplyons]

IIRC, Michael's basses don't detune at the bridge, only the headstock with four different Hipshot Xtenders. Our very own wierd cousin Bryan R. Tyler has this setup on an Elrick as well.

 

[Jazz Ad]

Michael Manring has 3 position detuning levers on his bridge, by groups of 2 strings.

Your solution is a $15 capo on first fret. Easy as pie, no mods needed.

I have a detuner on my bridge. It only works on the E string though.
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I usually set it to C. It used to be made by Hohner under Steingerger license.

 

[FatCity]

Thanks for the replies. I just emailed Hipshot to see if they had any plans to manufacture such a device- I will let you all know what they say.

FC

 

[Jazz Ad]

They won't. There was a thread about this in Manring's forum. A search will probably find it.
They said they tried but had issues putting it to work.

 

[Bryan316]

I'd sat the Tuner-mounted-replacement Hipshot Xtender is a tried and tested, working design. Unless you REALLY want a detuning bridge, just get the Xtender which is already a proven design and affordably available.

 

[Scott in Dallas]

I've seen a number of these posts since I've been on here, and here's a radical suggestion:

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It takes what, thirty seconds maximum to tune a bass with a cheap tuner, maybe ten with a good tuner? I've never seen the point of the hipshots, myself, since it takes less than two seconds to tune the E string down to D.

 

[Angus]

IIRC, Michael's basses don't detune at the bridge, only the headstock with four different Hipshot Xtenders. Our very own wierd cousin Bryan R. Tyler has this setup on an Elrick as well.

That's not true. The Hyperbass model has a detunable bridge that is actuated by a lever attached to a cam that has three positions. One lever the top two strings, the other the bottom two. It's tuned an octave up. Obviously the headstock detuners too.

His standard, Sonus-based model in the standard octave, only has the headstock detuners.

Zon's detunable bridge is not available without buying a Hyperbass. The price difference bwetween a model spec'd out exactly like a Hyperbass (without the bridge) and the Hyperbass is roughly $2800. That's an expensive bridge.

It's made by a seperate company as I understand it, but you'll never be able to get one.

I contacted Hipshot a while back about a bass version of the Trilogy, and they have not responded back. It's a much heavier version of Zon's detunable bridge, and far less attractive in how it works, as well. But, potentially available.

I have a fully CAD'ed model of a detunable bridge that is different to both Zon and Hipshots, and is decently compact and adjustable. I haven't tried it out yet, though. But...

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

It takes what, thirty seconds maximum to tune a bass with a cheap tuner, maybe ten with a good tuner? I've never seen the point of the hipshots, myself, since it takes less than two seconds to tune the E string down to D.

Because most people use them to flip back and forth between two tunings while still playing a song. Try using that tuner to retune while playing a song live and your song is dead.

 

[Angus]

It takes what, thirty seconds maximum to tune a bass with a cheap tuner, maybe ten with a good tuner? I've never seen the point of the hipshots, myself, since it takes less than two seconds to tune the E string down to D.

The point is to be able to do it in a song. For example:

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Zon's detunable bridge is not available without buying a Hyperbass. The price difference bwetween a model spec'd out exactly like a Hyperbass (without the bridge) and the Hyperbass is roughly $2800. That's an expensive bridge.

And that's just the Hyperbass series 1 (which doesn't come with the detunable bridge). The Series 2, which comes with the detunable bridge, isn't even listed on the website to spec out.

 

[Angus]

Nono, I'm talking about with the detunable bridge. I priced them out through a dealer. I can PM you about it, if interested.

 

[Scott in Dallas]

Because most people use them to flip back and forth between two tunings while still playing a song. Try using that tuner to retune while playing a song live and your song is dead.

Ah. At least it serves a purpose. Still seems unnecessary to me, but at least I understand it now. It wouldn't help the OP though. Tuning still seems like it'd be the easiest way to go about it. Maybe I retune my basses too much.

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Nah, I'd be looking at a series of numbers that would be unfathomable to me I tried hard to get a detunable bridge of some kind when I had my fretless Elrick made to no avail.

 

[tplyons]

I have a fully CAD'ed model of a detunable bridge that is different to both Zon and Hipshots, and is decently compact and adjustable. I haven't tried it out yet, though. But...

Do you have any more details on this? I'm intrigued.

 

[Angus]

What details do you want to know? I can't post a picture up because it's on my other computer currently being shipped back to Hypersonic to be repaired for the fourth time in 5 hours of usage.