Did I just pay a high price for my eagerness?

[Coolhandjjl]

...
I always thought dave Eden Was a genius

There is no Dave Eden. His name is David Nordschow, the company is named 'Eden', as it was located in Eden Prairie at one time, and 'David' is the name of a product line, a flip-off to SWR's 'Goliath' line as David Nordschow used to be a cab fabricator for Steven W Rabe.

 

[TheReceder]

Good catch.. I should have remembered. But old age does weird things to a mind. I'm sitting three feet from one of his original cabinets, and live 50 miles from what used to be where they were made. I actually wanted to pick up one of his new DNA systems.

 

[DirtDog]

Could this mean that I might be ... safe?



I plugged it in one of these things. How I could do something so stupid, is beyond me.

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I've done that before. Lost my favorite electric razor in Australia and a Line6 Spider amp in Afghanistan! Adapters are NOT step down transformers (as I have learned).

 

[DirtDog]

There is no Dave Eden. His name is David Nordschow, the company is named 'Eden', as it was located in Eden Prairie at one time, and 'David' is the name of a product line, a flip-off to SWR's 'Goliath' line as David Nordschow used to be a cab fabricator for Steven W Rabe.

I think that this is single most important thing I learned from talkbass back in the day.

 

[TheReceder]

Interesting how this thread has an undertone of an integrity check.

It typically doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell that an amps power supply was smoked, but (nothing against the guys at guitar center), they aren't close to rocket scientists and probably could care less. Only issue is returns like this end out coming out of the pockets of other customers.

Some people could live with returning it, me, I'd remember it the rest of my life, and it would turn into one of those things that I'd be ashamed of for quite a while. (I'm no saint. I'm just old enough now where I've got enough things that I'm ashamed of, I don't need any more).

I can see returning the amp to GC. But I couldn't do it myself if I knew it was me that smoked it. I might call them and tell them what I did and look for their help. They decide to be... well... stupid, and take the return... then they have to live with it.

 

[foolforthecity]

The TRUTH will set you free.

 

[The_Janitor]

Ok, got it. Make someone else pay for my admitted mistake.

Note to self to never buy/sell with you.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Sorry for the derail OP.

Thank goodness my bank account can survive the enormous hit of losing your non-existent business. Never sold anything here, never will. Enjoy your moral superiority.

 

[agedhorse]

You guys ever wonder why a manufacturer might question a warranty return??? The answer is clearly presented by some in this thread!

 

[Fight4Bottom]

Everybody guesses "it's a capacitor", I still haven't figured out why it's such a popular component to blame.

Maybe this is why:

I just noticed that there is some oily, liquid discharge from the unit as well. Stinks bad.

when i was a little kid my grandma bought me an icecream cone. i walked outside and took one lick and the icecream rolled off and fell into the gutter. there was no despair greater than mine in that moment. i can still see it there all covered in dirt. but then my grandma bought me another icecream! i remember just being so amazed! like i didn't even realize you could DO that!

By chance, does your grandma live near a Guitar Center?

 

[TheReceder]

Fight for bottom... I just thought that the reason a capacitor is called what it is, is that that it's filled to capacity with the magic smoke.

 

[sublimate]

... and that their own literature states that the amp is compliant with 220.

No, it doesn't. It says:

Damage to the equipment may result if improper line voltage is used. (See line voltage marking on unit).

 

[agedhorse]

Maybe this is why:

somedevil said: ↑
I just noticed that there is some oily, liquid discharge from the unit as well. Stinks bad.

My comment was more a poke at the general popularity of blaming a bad capacitor for just about everything imaginable, not really this one in particular, though there's sure to be a lot more damage than the exploded cap(s).

 

[TheReceder]

Ditto on the oil and the stink, the shame is you'd think that they'd have had some type of internal fuse to protect it. But it's all about adding weight. I could see something this small having oil filled caps, I'm not sure if these micro amps use oil filled transformers or not.

 

[BigBigGuy44]

These things happen and your "innocent" return does not hurt no one.

Except the seller, manufacturer and lender.

 

[agedhorse]

Ditto on the oil and the stink, the shame is you'd think that they'd have had some type of internal fuse to protect it. But it's all about adding weight. I could see something this small having oil filled caps, I'm not sure if these micro amps use oil filled transformers or not.

It's not oil, it's an electrolyte and it's generally corrosive.

I don't know of a single amplifier manufactured in the last 50 years that uses an oil filled transformers.

 

[TheReceder]

Except the seller, manufacturer and lender.

And future buyers... the money comes from someplace. Returns jack up prices.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Last weekend my land line, internet, and TV went down. The phone company tech said that he had to replace the box. Bad capacitor in the power supply was causing hum that the digital circuits couldn't cope with.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

These things happen and your "innocent" return does not hurt no one.

Except the higher costs that are passed on to future buyers.

There's an article today on WSJ, I think, about a service that Best Buy and other retailers are using to track dishonest returns. If you return too many time or questionable returns, your future returns are cut off.

 

[beans-on-toast]

There are however, still paper in oil capacitors being produced. They are kind of expensive so are mostly found in hi-fi equipment.


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[TheReceder]

Admittedly my background is in a different industry. I guess I should have been more specific and said if the fluid was a hydrocarbon, halogenated fluid, mineral oil, or even the more rare askeral. But to the average guy simply calling an oil filled cap, an oil filled cap is good enough. I'll try to limit my technical inputs in the future and happily bow to your superiority. Just to make sure was that spelled elektroelyte?