Differences between BFM Jack 10 , 12, 15

[agedhorse]

Thanks for being the DIY police that no one asked for. I guess



Wrong again. It's really simple. Two reasons, cost and size. It's always going to be more cost effective to buy a big box store cab than to build one. It has absolutely nothing to do with their performance. Your argument here is analogous to... Porsche's are terrible vehicles because there are far more F150's sold.

Just to prove you're not biased. I challenge you to say one positive thing about a BFM cab.

In the (real) pro audio world, it would be considered a “small” cabinet, but it doesn’t have anywhere near the performance of a real pro audio cabinet to be able to compete on an average SPL per cubic foot, linearity per cubic foot, etc.

Positives? The tweeter array is a clever and well thought out solution, it’s different enough to make a good DIY product, and actually I have suggested his Simplex cabinet project many times as a DIY project.

 

[41Hz To Go]

In the (real) pro audio world

I thought we were discussing bass guitar cabinets (talkbass)? You know, highly responsive, sensitive, efficient, articulate, punchy, loud, and has the potential to carve a hole big enough to drive a truck through in a 'band mix' type of cabs. Which is how I'd describe both of my BFM cabs.

Positives? The tweeter array is a clever and well thought out solution, it’s different enough to make a good DIY product.

Well, we at least agree upon one thing. I don't own a '78' Sting Wray but it would definitely 'sizzle' with this tweeter array!

 

[jnewmark]

[QUOTE="41Hz To Go, post: 28287053, member: 356124"]I thought we were discussing bass guitar cabinets (talkbass)? You know, highly responsive, sensitive, efficient, articulate, punchy, loud, and has the potential to carve a hole big enough to drive a truck through in a 'band mix' type of cabs. Which is how I'd describe both of my BFM cabs.



Well, we at least agree upon one thing. I don't own a '78' Sting Wray but it would definitely 'sizzle' with this tweeter array![/QUOTE]

Does Bill have any SPL charts showing the Jack 10 or 12 compared to other bass cabs ? The ones I can see from the link seem to be comparing them to pro audio cabs, like the JBL. Maybe that's what Agedhorse is referring to ?

 

[agedhorse]

Does Bill have any SPL charts showing the Jack 10 or 12 compared to other bass cabs ? The ones I can see from the link seem to be comparing them to pro audio cabs, like the JBL. Maybe that's what Agedhorse is referring to ?

Correct, and most modern bass cabinets and amps evolved from pro audio concepts and knowledge, using drivers that either are or evolved from pro audio drivers. This is entirely different from the guitar side of the industry.

 

[rogypop]

The Jack of all trades but master of none.. Mr Fitzmaurice designed Jack series of cabs as a bass cab which can double duty as P. A cabs when pressed, or vice versa. I find that many users find them to be quite satisfactory P.A cabs for general use. The hump in the midrange flattens when more cabs are added, whether single Jack tone profile will be workable as a standalone cab for bass guitar is simply matter of taste. They are designed to be a part of a scaleable system, as the most cabs from BFM are.

There are some dedicated bass guitar cabinets that draw design cues from hi end pro audio (fearful) but still the most used and beloved cabinets for bass guitar are a far cry from flat response hi end audio quality, and for a good reason. You just do not want to play records through your Bag End S15, Ampeg fridge or Eden XLT yet for bass guitar they do wonders.