Not looking to poke any bears, so lets not make this a political post, and if this is something that's not allowed to be discussed please let me know, but does anyone have any insight into how the new round of tariffs being imposed on Chinese manufactured goods shipped into the US(104% going into effect midnight tonight) will affect the price of basses such as the Dingwall Combustion/NG/John Taylor production model lines? Any distributors who know more, please feel free to address this.
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Dingwall production models and tariffs
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Oooh maybe they ship them to Canada first and they get double tariff'ed?
Tarrific!
Tarrific!
Honestly, I believe the prices on most instruments will rise. We'll see that in the coming weeks.
Not only instruments but general gear like amps and pedals.
Not only instruments but general gear like amps and pedals.
I'm going to use this as logic to justify new purchases to my wife
They do that, but I think tariffs are on country of manufacture so Chinese tariffs would apply when they come into USA. They're just setup in Canada.
you're late! I've been using this for weeeeeeeksI'm going to use this as logic to justify new purchases to my wife
There are many of us with custom orders in that are waiting for confirmation of how the tariffs will be applied to our builds and what it will do to the final price. At this point I think the best approach is to assume a 25% increase on the purchase price. If you can afford that added cost AND you still want the instrument, then move forward. If either condition is not met, then I'd start looking for used models that check enough of the boxes to make them desirable. I'll politely call the situation suboptimal, but I still want my upcoming bass and have begrudgingly made peace with the added cost.
I don't think they get double tariffs unless Canada is also imposing tariffs on Chinese goods or the US is also putting a tariff on all goods made in China rather than just imported from China, the latter of which would be, as described above, "suboptimal."
I've been power buying stuff the last few weeks. Knocking some buys off my list I was originally planning to do over the next year or so. Was able to Snag an F bass which I was particularly happy about.
Doing thos in an attempt to hunker down for a while. On the bright side, the used market will probably pick back up again for sellers.
Doing thos in an attempt to hunker down for a while. On the bright side, the used market will probably pick back up again for sellers.
I think there are likely already some tariffs on those models coming into Canada. Then there are probably going to be tariffs going into the USA. I expect it will be tough for Dingwall and definitely more costly for American buyers. I am hoping Sheldon and crew can survive while all this stuff gets sorted out.
This discussion has made the rounds, threads have been locked, and a few threads have been removed. Don’t expect to get much more than - basses will cost more. New. Used. Imports. Domestic. The unknown is by how much. Some builders will pass on the cost, some will absorb some of the cost, some will inflate the cost.
I’m guessing Dingwall and the dealers are in a holding pattern to find out what is really going to happen long term. If you think you might want one and have the money, grab it now if you can find one.
Definitely. I'm just wondering if the "Made in China" sticker on the production models is going to open it up to 104% tariffs in the US, and if so, how bad that's going to hurt Dingwall and potential customers. I see them typically priced around 3kUSD new, and with a 104% tariff, I would assume that would definitely have most buyers reconsidering. That would be extremely unfortunate.
Just goes to show you how absolutely dumb these tariffs are.
I don't believe they will be tariffed as Chinese goods if they're coming from Dingwall Canada. Probably 25% but don't quote me on that.
Also, I've been in contact with "agedhorse" who works for Mesa and they're busy trying to figure out the tariffs on parts they import to build their amps. He said they buy very little from China. It’s affecting everyone.
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Country of Origin is a key factor, not the Country of Export. I’m sure this is complicated by components shipped from China to Canada (for example) with additional value added by Canadian labor and/or parts.
Just to get this right:
The tariffs on incoming goods from on the long list of countries the administration (and here we're speaking of Chinese-built basses coming into the US) listed are paid by you and me and all American consumers. The producing company and their gov't pay nothing.
In a practical sense, these are all new taxes all of us will pay should they stay in place.
I’m just so glad I picked up a Combustion a couple weeks ago before all this happened.
Perhaps this is a tough one. There will soon be companies who won't share that their products are made in China.
These tariffs probably won't last long. The US is just posturing to send a message to the importers.
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The intention here is to force fair trade with anyone who does business with the US and to start manufacture more here.
The huge tariffs will discourage the American consumer from purchasing those products which will put indirect pressure on the importing country to level the playing field.
It will also force US companies to decide on where they should be getting their parts, perhaps to the point of new businesses starting here to pickup the slack.
I really don’t see this being long term.
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