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Do I need a DI?

benchpress11782

benchpress11782

May 23, 2007
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HELP WITH GEAR SETUP

My church is going wireless. Do I need a DI (sansamp) I don’t use any amp. I go active bass- volume pedal- tuner- ( sometimes delay or reverb)-wirelessly into house.

#2. Playing a solo using stereo reverb and delay. Is this to difficult to accomplish using pedals with stereo outs? Or keep it simple with mono. Using strymon pedals. Thanks for any help
 
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#1 Are you saying you're using a wireless transmitter from your reverb pedal to the FOH mixer? If so, it depends on the FOH board. If the mixer can accept an instrument level input then you don't need a DI. But, if the mixer only accepts mic level signals then you do need one between the wireless receiver and the FOH mixer.

#2 Not difficult, but you will need to send 2 signals to the board. Also, you need to be sure FOH is running in stereo, since FOH is run in mono more often than not.
 
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benchpress11782 said:
HELP WITH GEAR SETUP

My church is going wireless. Do I need a DI (sansamp) I don’t use any amp. I go active bass- volume pedal- tuner- ( sometimes delay or reverb)-wirelessly into house.

#2. Playing a solo using stereo reverb and delay. Is this to difficult to accomplish using pedals with stereo outs? Or keep it simple with mono. Using strymon pedals. Thanks for any help
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The first question depends on the wireless unit. Many wireless units have both 1/4" and XLR outputs. Typically if the unit does not have XLR you would use a DI unless the 1/4" is balanced and line level.

For live playing you would probably be wise to stick with mono effects. For stereo you will need a second wireless unit. If you have the available wireless units, and available channels on the mixing board, most audio techs will still want to run the bass mono. A lot of people run the entire PA mono.
 
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benchpress11782 said:
My church is going wireless.
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what does that mean?

the church is getting wireless guitar units for the players to use, like the wireless beltpack will be on your guitar strap?

because going wireless from after the pedals to FOH is not really a thing, that's pointless.

or are you talking about wireless IEMs, a totally different thing?
 
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walterw said:
what does that mean?

the church is getting wireless guitar units for the players to use, like the wireless beltpack will be on your guitar strap?

because going wireless from after the pedals to FOH is not really a thing, that's pointless.

or are you talking about wireless IEMs, a totally different thing?
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IEM and wireless out of guitar also. I have 2 transmitter. One for IEM and other for bass signal
 
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benchpress11782 said:
IEM and wireless out of guitar also. I have 2 transmitter. One for IEM and other for bass signal
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Your bass signal will go from the wireless RECEIVER (the transmitter is on your belt) to somewhere.. that might be a DI (or some EQ processor) before the church stagebox or it might plug directly into it.
For the IEM's you have the RECEIVER (with volume control) on your belt. IT might come from an Aviom mix, or it might be something that FOH mixes before they send it to you.
We NEED more details on your setup before definitively stating whether you need a DI or not... never hurts to have one tho' :)
 
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s0c9 said:
Your bass signal will go from the wireless RECEIVER (the transmitter is on your belt) to somewhere.. that might be a DI (or some EQ processor) before the church stagebox or it might plug directly into it.
For the IEM's you have the RECEIVER (with volume control) on your belt. IT might come from an Aviom mix, or it might be something that FOH mixes before they send it to you.
We NEED more details on your setup before definitively stating whether you need a DI or not... never hurts to have one tho' :)
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Ok. All I know is that at the end of my pedal chain. In the line out that I would insert a 1/4 cable and feed other end into amp, instead I insert 1/4 cable from a shure wireless receiver. I leave it on the floor when I play
My IEM are wired to a shure transmitter on my strap.
That’s it. Just seems weird that this method can capture my True Tone. I appreciate your help.
 
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benchpress11782 said:
Ok. All I know is that at the end of my pedal chain. In the line out that I would insert a 1/4 cable and feed other end into amp, instead I insert 1/4 cable from a shure wireless receiver. I leave it on the floor when I play
My IEM are wired to a shure transmitter on my strap.
That’s it. Just seems weird that this method can capture my True Tone. I appreciate your help.
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If your sound is getting everywhere it needs to go, you don't need another DI.
 
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benchpress11782 said:
Ok. All I know is that at the end of my pedal chain. In the line out that I would insert a 1/4 cable and feed other end into amp, instead I insert 1/4 cable from a shure wireless receiver. I leave it on the floor when I play
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what? no!

the wireless goes into the front of your pedalchain, in your case into your volume pedal. it replaces the cable between your bass and your pedals.

the last pedal in your chain gets plugged into the same thing it was before, and amp or straight to the PA or whatever.
 
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walterw said:
what? no!

the wireless goes into the front of your pedalchain, in your case into your volume pedal. it replaces the cable between your bass and your pedals.

the last pedal in your chain gets plugged into the same thing it was before, and amp or straight to the PA or whatever.
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No I don’t think you understand. It is not one for my bass to run wireless. It is just to send my signal back to the house
 
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walterw said:
and all that has nothing, nothing to do with your in-ears, that's a totally separate system.
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If he hears bass in his IEMs they are not totally separate ;).

From post #10, this is the signal routing: Bass>effects>instrument wireless transmitter>instrument wireless receiver>mixing console>IEM wireless transmitter>IEM wireless receiver>IEMs.

If this is accurate, the signal path is complete and no DI is required.
 
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