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Do We or Don't We? Mexico? Too Dangerous???

#101
While I already knew that the border areas of northern Mexico are very dangerous - long before I ever read this thread - the additional things about the situation that I've learned from reading the information in this thread have convinced me that going there now for any reason - short of absolute necessity - would be a fool's errand. And playing a gig there is definitely not an absolute necessity.

The OP may not realize it, but the fears of his bandmates - and their family members - may even end up saving his life...although he'll likely never know that, because one never knows for sure the outcome of the path not taken... :hmm:

MM
 
#102
Are you comfortable entering a thirld world country that is corrupt and lawless? I've been to Mexico once.. and won't go back.

If you decide to do this, make sure your affairs are in order and then paint a target on your back.... Like someone else said.. If you're white or black ( not latino )... youre not gonna blend in with the indigenous population.

Is the money that worth the risk? is the money that worth the risk? what if you pay for this for the rest of your life by having the living tar beaten out of you and ending up in a wheel chair?.. there are things worse than death you know!

And... then there is death!

Stick with your friends and stay home... guys in SO CAL don't even surf in mexico anymore!

Please read up and remember... life is never about the money!

I really hope you don't do this.. and I don't even know you. Even if you were a jerk.. I would not wish the risk you are taking. For GOD Sake... leave your girl friend, wife, and any family and close friends home!
 
#104
"Gun violence has risen in Mexico in recent years. According to the Associated Press, drug cartel turf battles around the country have left more than 30,000 people dead since December 2006."

I really wish we would help the citizens of Mexico more with our military might. I think our troops would be of much better use there than the ME right now.
 
#105
i get more afraid about it spilling into our country across our barely-protected borders. i don't know why it's our responsibility to fix things in other countries. it's very sad what the innocent and honest people have to deal with there, and i've made friends from and in Mexico that i worry about, but we have a LOT of things that need to be fixed in our own country.

i was there a year ago and had a great trip and met a lot of amazing and interesting people. but no WAY would i go out there now. 'specially for a show. unless i had a ridiculous amount of security and a gun on my person at all times.
 
#106
I live in San Diego and have recently gone into TJ to work multiple times. I've also traveled down to La Paz within the last 2 years. I don't get nervous and I blend in as much as possible (even though I'm a pale bearded gringo). Most of the violence is between the authorities and the cartel. Forget about the fear people, put a smile on that face!
 
#109
jmattbassplaya said:
"Gun violence has risen in Mexico in recent years. According to the Associated Press, drug cartel turf battles around the country have left more than 30,000 people dead since December 2006."

I really wish we would help the citizens of Mexico more with our military might. I think our troops would be of much better use there than the ME right now.
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I do feel bad for Mexico.

What's worse is that we have over 10,000 gun murders a year here in the USA. That's over 40,000 people dead since 2006.

Why not focus on our country?

Our military might could help our citizens and maybe even fix our roads.

At one of the bars we play at someone got shot the other night.
 
#110
i'm of the mind that LESS gun control has a better chance to solve the "gun problems" in America than more. rarely does someone that's going to jack you or shoot you care about what's legal and isn't. kinda the whole point of them being a criminal. it's just the honest people that are handcuffed and unable to protect themselves because of laws that "control guns". it's a joke.

Mexico has INCREDIBLY draconian laws about who can have a firearm and who can't. all these evil people doing evil things might think twice if they knew that everybody around them that was trying to just live had a good way to protect themselves.

i think we're getting a bit a field though. TB has rules against political discussions ne?
 
#113
Wife was there last week on biz, security detail moved them in and out of hotels. She heard explosions (police stations were grenaded) and the last day they left out of the parking garage exit in rear to avoid a taxi that had staked them out the previous afternoon.

Hey, but were musicians. No one expects us to have money, ransom or otherwise.

Worst that could happen is some druggie likes your band, and wants to keep you for a pet.

You just don't want to be collateral damage for $5k.
 
#115
Been to Mexico many times back in my party days with groups of friends doing all sorts of crazy things, corrupt cops, near arrests and shenanigans. Friends in a metal band used to play Mexico City regularly. Mostly had a great time but one particular trip ended in a downer. A couple flirty girls invited some handsome Rico Sauve locals to join our party against our better judgement. Unfortunately later in the night most of the party was robbed and the women sexually assaulted. Luckily no one was kidnapped or murdered but it was long drive back to the states with some very unhappy people. This is years before the drug cartel violence. Point of the story is that you can step in some serious **** real fast down there. After what I saw happen first hand - I would recommend against it. Safety just has to come first.
 
#116
I know it's been many months since this thread was active. But a recent news report sparked my memory of it. Thought I'd share the following - since it seems relevant:

MEXICO CITY -- Fighting among the Zetas gang and other vicious drug cartels led to the deaths of more than 40 people whose bodies were found in three Mexican cities over a 24-hour span, a government official said Saturday.

At least 20 people were killed and five injured when gunmen opened fire in a bar late Friday in the northern city of Monterrey, where the gang is fighting its former ally, the Gulf Cartel, said federal security spokesman Alejandro Poire.
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So much for the violence being confined to battles between the cartels and the police... :rolleyes:

MM
 

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