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Double Bass do you loan your bass out ?

#61
drurb said:
That would be not loaning your bass to "just anyone." If I say, "I will not loan my bass to anyone," then, logically speaking, it is the inverse of "I will loan my bass to anyone," which is the logical equivalent of, "I will loan my bass to no one." (But see below.) Sorry, the symbolic logician in me (not "my") comes out from time to time. :)

Of course, English construction often does not follow symbolic logic. So, to disambiguate whether the emphasis is on "any" in anyone, we'd say, "I will not loan my bass to just anyone." That means there are some to whom the bass would be loaned.

I wanted to find any excuse I could to get this thread off topic, given the pages of the same basic statements. Thanks for helping! :)

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Simply put, loan is a noun. Lend is a verb. You can't loan anybody anything.
 
#62
Joe Nerve said:
Simply put, loan is a noun. Lend is a verb. You can't loan anybody anything.
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Usage note
Sometimes mistakenly identified as an Americanism, loan as a verb meaning “to lend” has been used in English for nearly 800 years: Nearby villages loaned clothing and other supplies to the flood-ravaged town. The occasional objections to loan as a verb referring to things other than money, are comparatively recent. Loan is standard in all contexts but is perhaps most common in financial ones: The government has loaned money to farmers to purchase seed.
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#63
Thanks, Febs. You got there before I did. There exists a great deal of evidence that "loan" can be used as a verb. Invalid Link Removed what the OED on-line has to say. I consider the OED to be pretty much the last word (pun intended). Here's a nice treatment of the topic.

Joe Nerve, I thought the distinction you were making related to the use of "anyone" and "someone." So, now we've got that covered as well. :)
 
#69
On a similar topic, what do you think of letting others use your upright or electric or electric upright bass at jam sessions?

I really am not comfortable with this, especially with the upright, but I do not want to be the unfriendly bass player either.

The last jam session I went to found me right in this situation. Someone had brought their electric bass to the session, and then wanted to use my upright. I really did not want to, but since I was there for the first time, I said yes, and then he proceeded to play it or at least half an hour. He and I were the only bassists there. I kind of thought one, or at most two tunes would have been enough.

And, then, I am wondering what it would be like taking my NXT electric upright to a jam session.

Before I go to my next jam session, I really want to be clear on my policy about this. Really, unless it is someone I have known for awhile, and someone I know would be careful with my basses, I really prefer to say no. And, that would also be true if I were part of the house band, but, maybe this is not exactly the correct jam etiquette. Curious what you are or would do.
 
#70
Depends on a lot of things, including where you live. I think ettiquete differs town to town and even session to session.

That said, if you were not hosting the session, you should not hestitate to tell someone you're not comfortable with passing your bass around. If you were hosting, make sure to have agreement going in on what your policy is. If the session expects something of you that you aren't comfortable with it, turn it down, no matter how much you want to do it.

For what it's worth, here in Seattle, it's very common for the bass player hosting the session to allow others to sit in on it. I personally haven't hosted one in years and don't intend to soon, but when I did, I usually prefered that to trying to stash mine in a corner or under a table while someone played theirs. All of our spaces are cramped and jacked one way or another and I feel safer with it in the hands of a bass player than I do anywhere else. But that's me. I would never assume that I was entitled to play anyone else's bass, but people have been surprisingly generous in the 12 years I've been here.

EDIT - The truth is, I don't really like to play other people's basses, especially out in public. It's like driving someone else's car. I spend all night trying to figure out how to turn the windshield wipers off.
 
#71
You have made some really good points, Troy, that I had not thought of before. Probably the bass is better off being in someone's hands instead of on its side or leaning against at wall. And, having played others' basses occasionally, I would be much happier with my own.
 
#75
Man, you guys are rough. I've lent my bass to a good bassist from New Orleans coming into New York for one show. I'm renting (for very cheap) from a good player in Chicago for two gigs. Unless it's a friend, you expect there to be some money involved, and that if the bass is damaged, the person borrowing it pays to get it fixed. I would only consider renting to a professional I respect or who plays with someone I respect, then you have some confidence they'll take care of it.
 
#76
@ the OP, I would murder someone who touched it without asking, as for loaning it out, it would sound selfish but I wouldn't, only because now that I have this awesome setup, I wouldn't want it ruined or the bridge messed with. If I get another DB in the future (my current one becomes the backup) I would consider it.
 

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