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Do you still pay for music?

What do you want to come with an album?

  • More pictures of the band/artist possible with fans and performing

    Votes: 20 31.7%
  • Miniature biography, possibly linking to where I can find the full read

    Votes: 12 19.0%
  • A thank you letter with his or her/bands autograph and stickers.

    Votes: 8 12.7%
  • Other (post below)

    Votes: 23 36.5%

  • Total voters
    63
I havent been buying much music lately, as I havent been listening to much new music. My gf and I swapped mp3 collections.

The last time I paid for music was last November, when I went to see Beats Antique. After hearing the new album that they were touring I wanted myself a copy, so I bought the Vinyl from the merch booth. It came with a download card to get a free copy of the mp3s!
 
i've never been able to get what i wanted with free downloads. maybe when i was a kid (back in the free napster days..) and into very mainstream stuff. but to find antonio sanchez quartet records, or Karajan conducting mozard requiem, ext, music i actually want these days... to find it for free is impossible and not worth the effort, as well as the quality always sucks on freebies.

never even tempted to try finding things for free. the used/amazon market is pretty damn reasonable.
 
I still buy music, even hard-copy CDs. More and more I am buying downloads though. I am not sure the additional content would sway my decision to buy a CD rather than downloads. Usually if I want a good high-quality recording and the downloads don't specify the quality, that's when I look at CDs.
 
Biography of the album's "making of" would be sort of neat...like a digital download code to see behind-the-scenes footage on recording, story behind the songs, touring, etc. People don't get as attached to music these days because everything seems so impersonal with the way music is distributed now. Some artists I don't care to know more about, but many of them that I like or respect a lot are worth that. It doesn't even have to be something fancy, just standard def. video camera footage that's decently edited together into a video. Maybe some interviews or whatever, just some substance to give us backstory on the song or enrich them.
 
Despite the fact that I mostly listen to music on an mp3 player, I prefer physical CD's to digital downloads for the following reasons

1. They are collectibles. I voted "other" in the poll because I don't need any extras included with a new album, but if the price is right, I might opt for a version of an album that includes bonus tracks or DVD.
2. I can set my own compression/quality level when ripping the to my computer.
3. I have an "original" copy in case something happens to my digital copies (and backups). While online music stores are getting better since cloud storage is becoming more mainstream, I have been burned in the past when an unforseen event happened with my computer and I was told I would have to repurchase the music I lost to be able to download it again.


These are the circumstances under which I will download music these days.

1. Free promotional code from online music store (I usually get a free song credit when I purchase a CD from Amazon)
2. Free music offered by an online music store (usually holiday music during December)
3. Artists offer their music for free through a music sharing website.
4. One of the artists I follow have released a digital-only album
 
I guess you can accuse me of playing "devil's advocate" in this thread.

I use cd's 99.99999999% of the time. All paid for.

I rarely if ever download music off the net.

And I probably never will.


That said:-

I think the complaints of the industry are a farce.

First they cleverly engineer future products to be "net" dependant.

Then the net and industry presents everybody with umpteen ways to download products "au gratis"

Then they whine about people doing it.

Hey "net" and "industry"....if you don't want people downloading stuff for free....then stop giving them so many ways to do it.

I personally would never download anything from I-tunes (whether it was free or not),
because I always had zero respect for Steve Jobs, Apple and anything with an "i" in front of it. But that's just me and does not reflect the public at large.

BTW the DAT tape revolution for the consumer market lasted about as long as it took me to take the garbage out. DAT dying a quick death on a sandy beach at low tide as it desperately sucked air through dry gills.
 
I guess you can accuse me of playing "devil's advocate" in this thread.

I use cd's 99.99999999% of the time. All paid for.

I rarely if ever download music off the net.

And I probably never will.


That said:-

I think the complaints of the industry are a farce.

First they cleverly engineer future products to be "net" dependant.

Then the net and industry presents everybody with umpteen ways to download products "au gratis"

Then they whine about people doing it.

Hey "net" and "industry"....if you don't want people downloading stuff for free....then stop giving them so many ways to do it.

I personally would never download anything from I-tunes (whether it was free or not),
because I always had zero respect for Steve Jobs, Apple and anything with an "i" in front of it. But that's just me and does not reflect the public at large.

BTW the DAT tape revolution for the consumer market lasted about as long as it took me to take the garbage out. DAT dying a quick death on a sandy beach at low tide as it desperately sucked air through dry gills.

I like your thinking but you're not really getting it. It's not really about what these big record labels think. They're complaining that people aren't buying music which keeps them from buying that new mansion or houseboat they wanted.

It's about the independent artist who is struggling to eat and survive.
 
That said:-

I think the complaints of the industry are a farce.

First they cleverly engineer future products to be "net" dependant.

Then the net and industry presents everybody with umpteen ways to download products "au gratis"

Then they whine about people doing it.

Hey "net" and "industry"....if you don't want people downloading stuff for free....then stop giving them so many ways to do it.
Who specifically are you referring to by "industry"? That's like railing against "the enemy" without ever specifying who you mean. If you're only talking about the major labels or big Internet companies, then you're missing the point: this trend hurts individual artists just as much (if not more).

And you talk as though "the industry" was aligned on the subject of online music. It isn't. Internet companies like Google are entirely interested in advertising revenue and could care less about copyright law unless it stops them from doing something that would attract eyeballs (e.g., YouTube). They dance on the edge of legality using teams of lawyers defending against lawsuits, and writing big lobbyist paychecks to keep politicians and the justice department out of their business.

Large labels like Sony and Universal care about copyright law only as it pertains to their gigantic back-catalogs, so they can keep the revenue stream coming in as long as possible. (75 years? 100 years? Even more??) They work with technology companies only when it suits their interests. Otherwise, they're just as likely to sue the large tech companies for unlicensed use of music written and performed by someone who died 30 years ago.

And many of the technologies which facilitate content piracy (like BitTorrent) were certainly not "cleverly engineered" by "the industry". They were mainly developed by hackers and file-swappers, or have been completely transformed from original intent.

The Mp3 music format, for instance, only got really popular after the Winamp player became nearly universal in early 1997. It was originally just an audio codec standard for decoding audio streams embedded in MPEG videos, and wasn't even a standalone file format. No one in the industry had any idea that they were creating a standard that would take the entire industry by storm, and be embedded into every music device sold on the market. That happened in a completely unexpected and unplanned manner.

The only "cleverly engineered" mechanism I can think of really might be Apple's Fairplay, which is now defunct and therefore irrelevant anyway. In its original incarnation, it cleverly married Apple's interests (locking in customers to its devices and music store) with the label interests (content protection), yielding something that customers purchased despite the disadvantages. But it died under anti-competition lawsuit scrutiny eventually. (Ironically, the lawsuit I believe still lingers in the courts, years later...)

Anyway, the point is, "the industry" is not in alignment at all, the only attribute which all of these big companies share is a complete lack of empathy for individual songwriters and recording/performing artists.

But don't let your animosity towards the big companies detract you from the fact that lower music sales is bad for everybody involved in making music for a living. Yes, it's bad for the big music companies too. But ultimately, it's bad for the musicians.
 
My friend recently purchased F# A# ∞ by Godspeed You! Black Emperor on vinyl, and on the inside cover there's a picture of a train, and it comes with a Canadian penny that the band personally flattened on the rails that the pictured train rides on. Very cool. Pointless, but super cool. These types of things attract me to buying music, because not only did they put effort into the music, but they put effort into making every single album they sell unique.

Try downloading that!