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Does a 4-string bass become obsolete after picking up a 5-string?

Nope! Some of the greatest bass lines in history have been played on a 4-string bass and it's still relevant. I have some 5-string basses and a 6-string. The E, A, D and G strings are just as important, if not more important, as the low B and high C in my book. Some of the most influential bassists living today still play 4-string basses! Marcus Miller, Larry Graham, Stanley Clarke, Jeff Berlin, Verdine White and others are still killing it with 4 strings!
 
Fender jazz was my favorite bass! As soon as I tried the low B that all changed. I play reggae so the lower notes make up a lot of my repertoire, not to mention all the riffs can drop down a string, giving a lot of extra room on the high end. Ever since then, a 4 string just doesnt cut it. If i were limited to a 4 string bass, I'd run it B, E, A, D and skip the G altogether.
I like it it. Would the E string tuned down to a B sound kind a flubbery?
 
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Hey! This is my first post on TalkBass!
I'm about to purchase a 5-string bass. This definitely is something I can use, I'm playing a lot of metal that needs that low B, and it'll be nice to be able to play in lower keys that would usually require different tunings (like drop-D) without needing to detune. However, my original 4-string was a big investment for me, and I'm worried it'll become obsolete once I start playing this 5'er. Is there any situation you'd rather use a four stringer over a five stringer? The only ones I could think of would be that the 5-string requires more accuracy when playing slap style, and it's more difficult to play bass lines incorporating chords on a five string. However, both of those can be overcome with the correct technique. So, will I have any practical use for my four string? I'm a bit worried it will end up collecting dust in the corner and I'll only play it because I want to use it for something, not because I need to.

Sorry if this has already been covered, I couldn't find an answer to this exact question with a search. Thanks!
I've been playing a 5 for the last five years or so. Now, I bought a new 4, and haven't touched my 5 since. The band's tuned to drop C, so I can easily drop the 4 to that, and play almost exactly how I was doing it on the 5. I just can't hit the sub boom that I do a couple times per song anymore. But, it's really not a problem. I hardly use the 5th in standard settings either. Just selectively. Plus, I really like the farther string spacing. From 17 to 19. Much nicer for me and my big hands.
 
Was just at GC yesterday and played a few 5 strings back to back with down tuned 4 strings as its been about a year since Ive played bass. I thought the same thing as I did when I had a 5 string previously, I hate the "thunk" sound of the B string, even when its tuned up to C, the thickness kills it, just doesn't sound musical to me. Much prefer an E string tuned down to C or better yet, the Digitech Drop pedal would be ideal. Don't even have to touch the strings.
 
Hey! This is my first post on TalkBass!
I'm about to purchase a 5-string bass. This definitely is something I can use, I'm playing a lot of metal that needs that low B, and it'll be nice to be able to play in lower keys that would usually require different tunings (like drop-D) without needing to detune. However, my original 4-string was a big investment for me, and I'm worried it'll become obsolete once I start playing this 5'er. Is there any situation you'd rather use a four stringer over a five stringer? The only ones I could think of would be that the 5-string requires more accuracy when playing slap style, and it's more difficult to play bass lines incorporating chords on a five string. However, both of those can be overcome with the correct technique. So, will I have any practical use for my four string? I'm a bit worried it will end up collecting dust in the corner and I'll only play it because I want to use it for something, not because I need to.

Sorry if this has already been covered, I couldn't find an answer to this exact question with a search. Thanks!
I play a range of music, some of which does not require a 5. In those cases, my 5 would just be overkill. Right axe for the right gig. Mostly I use my 5.
 
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A individual 4-string bass can become obsolete by a 5-string bass when the player no longer uses the 4-string.

Beyond the individual context, 4-strings are not obsolete.

The 5-string design probably started on URB, after all you can't be a "double bass" if you can't get an octave under the cello's C.
 
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I have two five strings. One with high C and the other with low B. I enjoy them both as well as the 4 stringers I have. I don't see a down side to using either unless the song/situation is better solved by using one or the other.
I'm planning on a Ibanez Bass Workshop SRM806, (a multi-scale) just for the challenge and to experience the difference. I've never felt intimidated or put off by different types of basses. That doesn't mean I like the feel of all of them, neck shapes are my first caution.
 
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Hey! This is my first post on TalkBass!
I'm about to purchase a 5-string bass. This definitely is something I can use, I'm playing a lot of metal that needs that low B, and it'll be nice to be able to play in lower keys that would usually require different tunings (like drop-D) without needing to detune. However, my original 4-string was a big investment for me, and I'm worried it'll become obsolete once I start playing this 5'er. Is there any situation you'd rather use a four stringer over a five stringer? The only ones I could think of would be that the 5-string requires more accuracy when playing slap style, and it's more difficult to play bass lines incorporating chords on a five string. However, both of those can be overcome with the correct technique. So, will I have any practical use for my four string? I'm a bit worried it will end up collecting dust in the corner and I'll only play it because I want to use it for something, not because I need to.

Sorry if this has already been covered, I couldn't find an answer to this exact question with a search. Thanks!
Four-bangers will never be ‘obsolete ‘, but adding a 5 to your arsenal gives you another palette to paint your aural pictures from. Play and enjoy the tool that fits the moment. No sin either way!
 
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The short answer is no... but in my case (perhaps in many cases) once I moved to five, it became my main player and I considered selling my four to get another fiver. After playing mainly 5 and then going back to four, I noticed the four was harder to play (not harder to practice on though), noticing the string spacing (going from a stingray5 to a p bass) being much larger.

However, after going back and forth, playing in several original and cover bands, I now appreciate each bass individually, and prefer to play the right bass for the song, groove or feel that I am going for. I could easily (and have) play all the same songs on one bass, but I find it fun, even thrilling, to change basses (4 or 5 string) between songs or sets, and adjust my playing to get into the feel of the song, or genre we are playing next.

I find it fun to funk out on a four string jazz bass, detune to drop D for some 90's covers (Killing in the Name, etc), then switch to five string for extended low range of dance/rock tunes as needed.

It depends on the type of player you are. Some prefer to keep it as simple as possible, so that you have as little in the way of what you are effectively trying to do: create/perform music. Some prefer the challenge of thinking in new ways, or solving musical, even physical problems when playing, and get satisfaction out of overcoming those problems, while still making good music. This a wide spectrum from too simple to too complex, and all areas in-between.

Have fun.
 
I like it it. Would the E string tuned down to a B sound kind a flubbery?

In my experience, no, but probably depends on the bass, and how it is set up.

Before I bought a 5, I strung my P bass (G&L) BEAD. I was in love with the low notes. Once I moved to a five string (Stingray5) the main differences were:
5 string had tighter string spacing - making it play easier
5 string had active preamp - making low notes louder or cut through better

However, some 5 strings definitely have a 'flubbery' B string. I tried a ton of 5 strings (that I could afford) before choosing the right one, back in the day (2000's). I found Warwick and EB Stingray 5's had the best "sounding" and "playing" B strings, I'm sure that has since improved over time to many other manufacturers.
 
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Yeah, I figured this would touch off a lot of controversy, but I'm sure the original guy probably thought so too. I'm going to weigh in, but keep in mind this is just my own opinion and not meant to step on anyone else's. I got my first real 5 string (in the summer of '17 - sorry). No, but I wanted to check out a 5 string a year or two back. Do I NEED the B? No. But I like having it. I bought the bass (cheap) just to try out a 5er and see if I liked it. But it sounded surprisingly good and played decently too.

It has since become my main bass. My Fender P, as well as my darling 92 Ibby Sabre don't get out much anymore. In fact, not at all. Just last night I pulled the Ibby out of storage for a practice, just to let it see the light out of it's case. I played it for 3 songs, loved everything I had ever loved about it, then put it away again. I find I'm no longer comfortable with a 4. They're fine basses. Awesome actually, but I just don't play them anymore. I've learned too many songs on the 5 and am not good enough to transpose to a 4 instantly.

So, in my case at least, the original poster's concern was valid. I don't play others anymore. But I don't really regret it. However, I'm now in the market for an updated 5 string.

I don't think 4s are ever going away, and I don't think they should. They're just not for me any more - at least for the time being. I do think comparing counts of 4s vs 5s is more than a little misleading though. Sure, 4s are more popular than 5s. Doesn't mean they're better, nor worse. Just means they're more popular. 5s are more popular than 6s too, but I don't hear too many people saying that 5s are better because of that. They're just different. If you love your 4, I'm not trying to dis it. Just that for some people, 5s are preferred. No harm in experimenting to see, right?
 
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Hey! This is my first post on TalkBass!
I'm about to purchase a 5-string bass. This definitely is something I can use, I'm playing a lot of metal that needs that low B, and it'll be nice to be able to play in lower keys that would usually require different tunings (like drop-D) without needing to detune. However, my original 4-string was a big investment for me, and I'm worried it'll become obsolete once I start playing this 5'er. Is there any situation you'd rather use a four stringer over a five stringer? The only ones I could think of would be that the 5-string requires more accuracy when playing slap style, and it's more difficult to play bass lines incorporating chords on a five string. However, both of those can be overcome with the correct technique. So, will I have any practical use for my four string? I'm a bit worried it will end up collecting dust in the corner and I'll only play it because I want to use it for something, not because I need to.

Sorry if this has already been covered, I couldn't find an answer to this exact question with a search. Thanks!

Hi, JustRoots. Welcome to Talkbass.

This post -- or some version of it -- comes up fairly frequently. When it does, I usually read some of the replies, get hot and bothered about it, start to type up a lengthy response, decide it's not worth it, hit delete, and walk away until the next 4/5/X string thread pops up.

While there are issues I'd like to address in this whole discussion, I'll say that, for you, the answer will depend on a number of things. No one else will be able to provide the answer for you and it might take some time to make itself known.

Regardless of the number of strings, each bass might do different things for you -- a different tone, different personality, be better suited to certain types of music. Or not. You might find a use for those characteristics. Or not. You might like moving between two instruments -- or not. You get the picture.

For me, a five string bass (and I've played fretted and fretless fours and fives and fretted sixes -- very comfortable on the fives; sixes would take some work before I could say that) does not contain a four-string bass. It contains the notes of a four-string bass, sure, but a four string has a different feel (and I think, often a different response) and encourages subtly (or sometimes not-so-subtly) different ways of thinking and moving around the instrument and creating a musical line.

Playing something on a five (or a six) and then playing it on a four often teaches me something new. Same for the reverse, though via a slightly different mechanism. (Same for fretted-fretless, now that I think about it.) This is for me. This might not be the case for somebody else -- if so, for them, a four string may well be redundant or even counterproductive (I wouldn't use the word "obsolete" as that implies something in a larger context) and, in that case, there would be no good reason (at least musically speaking), barring some professional obligation, for that person to hold on to one.

If you have a good use for a five now, get it. You'll find out what your relationship with the four is over time -- and it might change at different stages of your musical life (as the stories of others in this thread have shown).

Have fun, good luck -- and happy playing!
-Mark
 
I bought my first 5 string over 20 years ago and I have been playing them ever since. But this year nostalgia over came me and I bought an old 4 string and I am having a lot of fun playing it on songs that don't go below E, which is a lot of pop songs. I now wish I had kept my original 4 string, and that is my recommendation for you.