Hello everyone, I need any advise on an issue I'm facing. I've been playing the bass since 20 years in powerful rock bands with my American Fender Jazz Bass tuned in E. I play it with the pick, saturation and attack the strings hard. My strings are 105-85-70-50 In a new band I'm in, I have drop the tuning to D. And here starts my problems. With the height of my stings I can't get the D string tuned all the way through the octaves. I have try to put a 110 string for the bass to hold better the tuning but it makes it worst at the octave. The advice I've been having so far: change to 5 strings bass, the jazz bass not being good at D tuning with hard playing. I don't like the idea since I've always played on four strings. Does anyone play in D tuning with a Jazz Bass ? What d would be your recommendations ? Thanks a lot for your input. Souheil
Sounds like you need a good setup of your bass. Seems like you need to lower your action and adjust your intonation.
Ive played Jazz basses tuned to C#. they handle low tuning well. Sounds like your action is too low. You basically have to choose between low action or attacking the strings hard. I choose the former every time.
A simple setup should do it. I'm always throwing my basses between standard and drop D, including a Jazz. Any bass set up properly can switch between E and D, it's not that big a change. Hope you get it sorted
Thank you all for the comments. What do you mean by low action ? The height of the strings ? Does it worth it then to play on a 110 string when changing from E to D in between songs ? I use 110-85-70-50 Thanks for the support. Souheil
I used to play with 3 basses ... A Rickenbacker 4001 tuned EADG A p-bass tuned EbAbDbGb and a Jazz bass tuned DGCF I set up each bass for the tuning. It all worked great. Then I got a 5 string bass and no more detuning needed.
U gotta shorten the saddle where it is setup to a 105 string E hz....to where the low B and octave match up. Your low E is way down there on the 5th fret now....thats it.
Every note should have its own personalized length and thickness(like a piano) to operate OPTIMALY with the same force applied(plucking) with the same tension on the strings...dingwall operate on this premise with its fret layout being kind of like a double parabola....sorry I went and smoked some whooch motivated by some new poster yesterday and its making me stupid I believe...
Do you mean that when seting up the saddle to make the strings tuned all the way to the octave I should not use the D ref when to adjust but the note B instead ?
I use a Jazz bass with 45-105 boomers and a Drop D tuner.....I have no problems, maybe you should think of this option. You may just need to setup your string height a bit higher and then readjust intonation....I think that may help (as an idea) Good Luck
Okay okay, I'll go adjust my setup again. But at this stage, the only thing I can do is to lower the action and get back to 105. Because the problem I'm having is that the saddle can't get further back and the D is still to high at the octave. I'll report. Thanks
I play 3 basses, all with a DGCF tuning. One is a Peavey BXP Millennium, which follow J bass standards pretty closely. I use string sets with balanced or progressive string tension on all the basses. They all work great for EADG, DADG and DGCF tunings. I started out on EADG, then tried drop D, but finally tried DGCF and made that my personal standard. To me it doesn't seem like I need to change intonation between tunings as long as I keep to the same strings. On balanced / progressive tension sets, it seems that the thickest string are a bit heavier than on "standard" sets. I think you should try a heavier string or a complete balanced tension set. You'll have to adjust intonation when changing strings, of course.
This is only tuned one whole step. Pretty benign stuff. Re-setup your bass to play well in this tuning. Or, sounds like...pay someone else to do it. Done.
The d tuner works well...the only thing I would nitpik at would b some time it takes the fundamental a tad sharp after u release the lever...petty I kno
To the OP: I'm assuming you are talking about detuning your E string only down to D (a whole step); and not detuning the other strings. But, I can't really tell from your OP. IME, detuning the E does not have a significant effect on bridge determined intonation; and detuning works quite well IF the bass is properly intonated to begin with. I do this on several J basses with few issues, aside from the very slight irreproducibility of the Hipshot previously mentioned. There is otherwise no general issue with drop tuning a J Bass E string. Many do it successfully on a regular basis. Can't tell if that addresses your question or not.